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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=11165&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;yummymummy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: re: If you're Jewish, it doesn't pay to have .....&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 12:09 pm (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;[quote=&amp;quot;louche&amp;quot;]An apartment complex with a swimming pool. [quote]
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We lived in a building with a pool and my little kids loved it. My husband wouldn't use the pool but I would take them down to swim and it was great in the summer.
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	<title>Chinuch / Education :: BTs--where do your families fit in with your children?</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=12650&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;yb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: BTs--where do your families fit in with your children?&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 12:06 pm (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;To all BTs (Ba'alei teshuvas)
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How do you stay in contact with your families (parents, siblings) when you are raising your children in such a different context? How do you explain things? Do you share meals?
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I'd like your view on the matter, clearly affecting so many of us in this generation...Thanks!
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3047&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;louche&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: re: If you're Jewish, it doesn't pay to have .....&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 12:02 pm (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;A vacation package that includes couples massage.
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An apartment complex with a swimming pool. 
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A job that pays triple time for Saturdays.
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	<title>Chit Chat :: RE: If you're Jewish, it doesn't pay to have .....</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3047&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;louche&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: re: If you're Jewish, it doesn't pay to have .....&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:59 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt; &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Lady Godiva wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt;    &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;If you're Jewish, it doesn't pay to book a hotel room with complimentary meals.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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Oh, man, so right!
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First-class plane tickets with meals served on real china.
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	<title>Household Management :: RE: homemade pasta</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3047&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;louche&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: re: homemade pasta&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:57 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Food connosooers say pasta should be cooked &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic&quot;&gt;al dente&lt;/span&gt;--Italian for &amp;quot;a little bit munchy&amp;quot; &lt;img src=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Wink&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; --but you're the ones who have to eat it. If you like it softer, cook a bit longer. Who cares what the connoisseurs say?
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	<title>Chit Chat :: RE: If you're Jewish, it doesn't pay to have .....</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=5557&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Lady Godiva&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: re: If you're Jewish, it doesn't pay to have .....&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:56 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;If you're Jewish, it doesn't pay to book a hotel room with complimentary meals.
&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;“If a woman rebels against high-heeled shoes, she should take care to do it in a very smart hat” - George Bernard Shaw&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title>Chit Chat :: RE: If you're Jewish, it doesn't pay to have .....</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3686&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Barbara&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: re: If you're Jewish, it doesn't pay to have .....&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:48 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt; &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;onlyme wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt;    &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;Hmm... this is a tough one. How about discount coupons at McDonald's?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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You stole mine.  I was thinking the winning ticket for a lifetime supply of free pork.
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=8616&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;onlyme&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: re: If you're Jewish, it doesn't pay to have .....&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:46 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Hmm... this is a tough one. How about discount coupons at McDonald's?
&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;To err is human. To blame it on a computer is even more so.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3047&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;louche&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: re: If you're Jewish, it doesn't pay to have .....&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:44 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Right on, cm! 
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...A well-developed bosom
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...a love of singing
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...a love of extreme sports (participatory, not spectator)
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	<title>Chinuch / Education :: RE: Is this a good idea?</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=10428&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;aidelmaidel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: re: Is this a good idea?&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:43 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;One more thing to help diffuse the tension here &lt;img src=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Very Happy&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; &lt;img src=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Very Happy&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;
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	<title>Chit Chat :: RE: If you're Jewish, it doesn't pay to have .....</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=10738&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;yoshi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: re: If you're Jewish, it doesn't pay to have .....&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:41 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;lol
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but i like the abs!
&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.LakewoodRunningClub.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.LakewoodRunningClub.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.saytehillim.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.saytehillim.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title>Salads &amp; Dips :: please share your favorite dressings</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=8004&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;freshie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: please share your favorite dressings&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:38 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;I am getting bored of my regulars and need new ideas. I love very creative dressings. if necessary write what salad vegetables you use.
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TIA
&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title>Chit Chat :: RE: If you're Jewish, it doesn't pay to have .....</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=4221&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;flowerpower&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:37 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Sorry!
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Chocolate heals everything!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1232&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;chocolate moose&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:37 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt; &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;flowerpower wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt;    &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;Tables are not always covered in my house. 
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I take pleasure in my six pack abs.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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You're spoiling my fun.
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	<title>Desserts :: RE: How to Dress Up Sorbet?</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=4221&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;flowerpower&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:36 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;I serve three different color scoops and sprinkle pomegranite seeds or blueberries on them.
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Chocolate heals everything!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title>Cakes, Cookies, and Muffins :: RE: amaretto bundt cake</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=10175&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Blueberry Muffin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: re: amaretto bundt cake&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:35 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;This is an awesome DENSE cake - we love it too!
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	<title>Chinuch / Education :: RE: Is this a good idea?</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=10428&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;aidelmaidel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: re: Is this a good idea?&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:33 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;To the OP and everyone else, forgive me for this very long post.
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Why is my opinion considered rude, and yours not?
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Can I ask a question? Is English your first or primary language? Because I'm going to guess here that maybe you don't realize the tone your writing is giving off. Is your primary language Hebrew, Yiddish or Hungarian? Because that might explain why everyone is so upset with what you've written.
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But in response to your question, can I point out what you wrote that is so judgmental?
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There should be a law banning all preschools and all babysitters.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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You've bashed the OP in the first sentence. You're essentially saying that by putting her child in a playgroup she's &amp;quot;breaking the law&amp;quot;, doing something &amp;quot;criminal&amp;quot;. Never mind that there is no such law.
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&lt;/span&gt; &lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt; &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Quote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt;    &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;There is no reason that children have to be &amp;quot;social&amp;quot; and in a program aside from the fact that Mommy wants to be free.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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Judgmental. What you're saying here is that if a woman wants even a modicum of time for herself that is equivalent in your mind a woman giving up her children completely (i.e. free). (Also note that later you will contradict yourself and say that children need to go to school so they can be &amp;quot;social&amp;quot;, but social doesn't apply before age 5 or whatever arbitrary number you pick?)
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 &lt;/span&gt; &lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt; &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Quote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt;    &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;If you have a child, be a Mommy! I am my kids MOM.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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My favorite! Last time I checked all it took to be a Mommy or a MOM or a mother was that you had a child whether through birth or adoption. Your narrowly defined definition of motherhood is patently offensive to myself and probably the majority of the mothers on the board. You are implying that unless you spend every waking moment of your child's life with them then you are not a MOM. 
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You don't leave a lot of leeway here for people who don't fit your definition of what a family should be. What about a family in which the mother goes to work so the father can learn in kollel? or the father is unable to get a job/work? or chas v'shalom one of the parents is deceased?
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I agree that a child needs it's mother. But NOTHING can replace? And if you have more than one child, your attention and love is most definitely divided! But the rest of us poor shlubs are not devoted if we don't stay home every day?
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Therefore, the rest of us are clearly inferior because maybe we can't be as perfect. 
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Very funny. I did not use babysitters. My husband, parents, parents in law, or my children were the babysitters. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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So the rest of us who have a husband who is maybe at work, parents or in-laws who are either deceased, out of town, or just not interested, or children who are not old enough/responsible enough to babysit are failures?
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But outside the USA people aren't interested in raising their own children? Or the people in the USA who might enjoy raising their own children but can't afford to not work? Are they clearly inferior in your mind? Do you really believe that people don't want to stay with their children?
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For shame on the rest of us who might put the child in the other room to play or nap while we cleaned. Or maybe if our house isn't as spotless as yours we've clearly failed.
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So the rest of us if we even have one moment of &amp;quot;I need a break&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;If this kid does that one more time I might freak out&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;why did I ever have children&amp;quot;, then you are implying we are not real mothers? Because we're not tzaddikim?
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You're implying that the rest of us are conscienceless bums who don't care about our children if we leave them with a babysitter occasionally. And that we're G-dless heathens who clearly don't care about Hashem because we're not caring for our precious children in the same manner as you.
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So if I didn't breastfeed (for any number of reasons medical, shalom bayis, etc) or breastfeed until age 2, had an emergency c-section or needed an epidural after a 3 day induction, or went to work on the schedule of my job (so that we could eat), then again, I'm not a real mother in your eyes.
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Great! But for the rest of us who do have regrets at times (which is NORMAL), are we again in your eyes, not a real mother?
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I wish them all good luck. I hope for the sake of their kids that all will be well.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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This is just nasty. &amp;quot;Do the minimum&amp;quot;? I guess anything other than what you're doing is &amp;quot;minimally acceptable&amp;quot; in your eyes? What you're saying here is &amp;quot;I'm pretty sure my way is the RIGHT WAY and you can say all you want that by doing the &amp;quot;minimum&amp;quot; your kids will be fine, but I sincerely doubt it. That's why I said &amp;quot;I hope for the sake of their kids.&amp;quot;&amp;quot; Because hopefully Hashem will help your poor kids out even if you only do the minimum. 
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&amp;quot;The Kind of Mother&amp;quot; as if the rest of us are a BAD &amp;quot;kind of mother&amp;quot; because we left our kids with a babysitter.
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OH NO!! SHIDDUCH FEAR CARD!! G-d forbid someone might think you were less that the community ideal!!!
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Many mothers have no clue what their kids are being taught and fed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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This is insulting. You seem to think that if we leave our children with a non-Jewish babysitter that we have not thought long and hard about the details, possibilities and ramifications? Don't insult people's intelligence.
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This is SO insulting. Because a child is left with a babysitter does not make them an orphan. Al pi Halacha an orphan is someone who has one or both parents who lo aleinu passed away. A child whose parent comes home everyday is not an orphan, by any stretch of the imagination. 
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Great, you live in a place where there are Jewish schools. Some people don't. For example, you know that cholov yisroel milk you drink? The cows aren't milked in your town. In NY at least, they are milked at dairy farms far, far upstate. Did you know that there are 3 mashgichim that work every single day watching the cows so that you can have cholov yisroel milk? Did you know those mashgichim have families with children? Who need chinuch? But that those 3 families are the only frum yidden for miles around? That the closest yeshiva is across the border in Canada and is a 2-3 hour car ride each way?
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Check with your mother or grandmother. I promise before Bais Yaakov most girls in America (Chassidic girls too) went to public school. If your bubbie went to public school, don't let anyone know or you might not be able to get a shidduch for your child! And what about AHAVAS YISROEL for other yidden? While I don't necessarily consider Conservative Judaism as my cup of tea, I would say it's far from a comparison to Catholic schools.
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Oh but if you think you or your kid needs something different, then there is clearly something wrong with you.
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Have you ever looked at a non-frum preschool or are you just passing judgment? It's pretty much the same as a frum-preschool, except they might also learn ABCs. Basics are basics. But I'm sure in conservative preschool they're teaching them all about Yeshka and Muhammed. &lt;img src=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Wink&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;
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So does that mean I can stop caring about my child's chinuch at age 6? I'm so glad I can stop then because based on your ideology of motherhood so far, I'm exhausted!
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Unfortunately, Barbara, its isn't. Until it becomes the norm, it is viewed as being terrible socially..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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But didn't you say earlier that kids need socialization? Oh right, here's the exact quote: &amp;quot;There is no reason that children have to be &amp;quot;social&amp;quot; and in a program aside from the fact that Mommy wants to be free.&amp;quot;
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But those of us who do &amp;quot;pioneer&amp;quot; in the hopes of giving our children what we believe might be better for *them*, we're doing it on our children's cheshbon and not our own?
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I don't know but problem and big flaws sound pretty much the same to me. No one shita is perfect. But why do you need to denigrate homeschooling as not education?
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So those of us that choose to home school we are creating social misfits?
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YOU'RE RUINING YOUR CHILDREN!!! THEY ARE GOING TO HATE YOU FOR HOMESCHOOLING THEM!! THEY ARE GOING TO RESENT YOUR CHOICES!!!!
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OH NO!! SHIDDUCH FEAR CARD!! AGAIN!! Homeschooling = Weird. That's insulting. Homeschooling = my children will not have futures, not be able to get a job, not be able to find a spouse. Also insulting.
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Again, you're implying that homeschooled (and children in some form of childcare) will be unhappy misfits who will resent you for doing this to them.
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You don't leave a lot of room for Hashem to run the world. It sounds to me that you have a very clear idea of what should and shouldn't be and that if those guidelines aren't follow the world will fall apart. Once upon a time I asked an out of town Chassidic Rov a question and he responded to me, &amp;quot;I don't know about what goes on in Brooklyn, but over here in _____ we're not frummer than G-d.&amp;quot;
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=10175&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Blueberry Muffin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: re: How to Dress Up Sorbet?&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:30 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt; &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;pumpernickle wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt;    &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;I served three colors of mini scooped sorbet balls in a pretty cup on a pineapple ring ( from the can) I topped it off with a leaf and it looked beautiful!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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do u put the pineapple ring in the cup or the pineapple ring on a plate and a nice cup filled with sorbet in the ring?
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=4221&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;flowerpower&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:27 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Tables are not always covered in my house. 
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I take pleasure in my six pack abs.
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=11464&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;chocolate chips&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: re: Chocolate Chip Cookies, NO butter/marg - quick and easy!&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:26 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;This sounds like my type of thing &lt;img src=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/images/smiles/045.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Yes&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; yuummmmm!
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=7455&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;chatz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: re: How common are tenaim before the wedding?&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:25 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt; &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mommy F. wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt;    &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;It's common in chabad and other chassidish circles
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I have never heard of it being done in yeshivish or modern orthodox circles&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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I'm Lubavitch and as far as I know, Lubavitch does the t'naim (the written, legal document) the wedding day for the reason CM mentioned...
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	<title>Announcements &amp; Mazel Tovs :: RE: Huge Mitzvah!! Please READ!</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=7455&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;chatz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:21 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt; &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;de_goldy wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt;    &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;If it's prescription medicine I believe you are not allowed to travel with it unless its for you.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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Do you have a source for that? You can't take liquid medicine over 100 mil in your hand luggage unless it's prescribed for you.. but in a suitcase? Are you saying a woman should not get her medicine because no one can bring it to her? Even if a doctor sends along a note? Are you talking about prescribed illegal substances?
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Sorry, OP, I don't know anyone going to Israel...
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=4221&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;flowerpower&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:20 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;I live in Ny and it's pretty common here. Many make a vort/tenoyim in the house like a day after then engagement or so but some chasidim still make one nice big one in a hall.....  Now with the economy it's not that common anymore.
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=4787&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Mommy F.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: re: How common are tenaim before the wedding?&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:17 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;It's common in chabad and other chassidish circles
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I have never heard of it being done in yeshivish or modern orthodox circles
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=10135&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;busydev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: re: How common are tenaim before the wedding?&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:14 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Generally its done among chassidim. 
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Tho my SIL had tannaim by the vort and they are both very litvish. my BIL's rosh yeshiva (who is also very litvish) held by it i think so thats what they did (this was many years before i joined the family)
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so it does happen outside the chassidish velt- but not very common at all
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=10986&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Basimcha&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: re: Recipe for vegetable side dish anyone?&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:12 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Thanks everyone for all your recipes--I will start trying them for next week menu!
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1477&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;gold21&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: re: When to feed my kids dinner if bedtime is 6:15-6:30&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:11 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;tzataza, we do it two different ways, depending on how early supper is prepared: 1. At around 4:00 they eat something that is a cross between snack and supper (sandwich or cereal and milk etc), at 6:30 they eat the real supper food (like chinese or shnitzel etc)  2. At 4:00 they eat the real supper, at 6:30 they eat leftovers (usually they eat the side dishes like rice, orzo, etc).
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=742&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Chayalle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: re: How common are tenaim before the wedding?&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:07 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;As far as I know it's common in Chassidish circles.  It's actually rare in Yeshivish circles.
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Coming from a yeshivish upbringing with chassidish background (grandparents), I was told that in my family we don't do the tenaim till right before the Chuppah because the Chasan and Kallah see each other during the engagement period.  Since, as chocolate mousse posted, it's complicated to break the tenaim, where the chosson and Kallah don't see each other until the Chassuna (such as by the chassidim) the likelihood of a broken engagement is reduced and tenaim are more common.  
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One of my siblings married into a more chassidish background and my father stood very firmly on the &amp;quot;NO TENAIM&amp;quot; stance, despite pressure (and they were definitely seeing each other).
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	<title>Guests :: RE: WWYD family inviting themselves</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3047&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;louche&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: re: WWYD family inviting themselves&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:06 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;I for one don't appreciate people inviting themselves, stam. I'm always ahhpy to help out in an emergency, like the family whose kitchen caught fire Thursday night. Still, I usually make the best of it and don't turn people down unless the situation is truly impossible. 
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Some time ago I invited a certain young man because we were having a certain young woman who I thought might hit it off with him. That's really the only reason i invited him, as he rubs me a bit the wrong way.  Alas, now he thinks he has an open invitation! Last week he assured me (as if I was worried &lt;img src=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Rolling Eyes&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; ) that although he will be away on vacation the rest of the summer, he'll be back after Labor day and he will be calling.  urgh! 
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No good deed goes unpunished.
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	<title>Chinuch / Education :: RE: Is this a good idea?</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2699&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;DrMom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: re: Is this a good idea?&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:04 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt; &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;aidelmaidel wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt;    &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt; &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;DrMom wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt;    &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt; &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;aidelmaidel wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt;    &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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Amother, seriously, I have to ask after reading the above, what is really important to you? Is it that your children get the best care from you or that you are only doing what is expected from you in your community so that your children will get &amp;quot;good shidduchim&amp;quot;?
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I &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic&quot;&gt;davka&lt;/span&gt; wouldn't want my kids to marry someone with such strident parents. Such a person would probably make my child and his/her spouse miserable.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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Wait, who's being strident - me or the anonymous &amp;quot;amother&amp;quot;?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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amother, of course! Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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	<title>Reading Room :: RE: ..So which serial are you following now?</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3000&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;bashinda&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 11:00 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have this theory that Chaviva really wanted to marry Yonah Kirsch. Bracha's going to end up with him and she and Chaviva are going to have a showdown where Chaviva let's Bracha know that she was always jealous of her because she's so perfect etc. And Bracha will be completely non-plussed in her very bland way.  &lt;img src=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Wink&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; 
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Actually, this novel doesn't support dramatic showdowns.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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 &lt;img src=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Laughing&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;  I don't know why that makes me laugh but it does.
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I don't know about the Yonah Kirsch angle but I think in the last (?) episode of the serial it was obvious that they're both jealous of each other and it sounds like it's for the same reason, unless I'm remember wrong. Isn't Bracha also jealous of Chaviva for being perfect? Turns out they've wasted years of what could have been a great friendship by being jealous of each other. 
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But yes, a showdown maybe isn't the word for what might happen. 
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It's too bad I don't like LL's new serial. And the reason I don't like the widow character is she's completely self absorbed. Yes, she went through major trauma and nobody should go through that but she treats her old friend like she's a doormat.  Of course it doesn't help that Esther Jacobs (who keeps on reminding me of the Journeys video! Anyone with the same problem?) acts like a SHMATTEH! 
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I think Yaffa whatever her name is should look a little bit more at the &amp;quot;I am but dust and ashes&amp;quot; paper in her pocket and Esther Jacobs needs to tell herself over and over that the world was only created for her and that would solve the majority of the problems in this novel  &lt;img src=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Very Happy&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; 
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=742&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Chayalle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt; &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Quote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt;    &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;Corelle is a bit harder to break but when it does it shatters and makes tons of tiny very very sharp pieces, much worse than regular glass or china.
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Yes.  China does not usually shatter into shards the way corelle does.
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FYI I have formica countertops.
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=11165&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;yummymummy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: re: do you set place settings with china at the table fo&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt; &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Raisin wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt;    &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;if you have very hard floors or counters (real tile floors) corelle will break very easily.  I have vinyl and wood flooring and fake counters (can't remember what it is called but it is covered chipboard) and my corelle rarely breaks.  most of my milchig set got broken when we rented a vacation cottage with lovely stone floors.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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Good to know, thanks!
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;It is not common, but we had as my husband's family still does tenaim.  
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It was an oddity though.
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We were in Boston at the time, but some of my siblings in laws had theirs in Brooklyn.
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1232&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;chocolate moose&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;It's not, because it's a legal document.  If the couple does't marry, for whatever reason, it's complicated to break.
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.... a fancy table.  It's covered with a tablecloth anyway.
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.... a 6-pack abs.  It's a lot of trouble to get and maintain, and no one's gonna see it much anyway.
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=42&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Liba&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Corelle is a bit harder to break but when it does it shatters and makes tons of tiny very very sharp pieces, much worse than regular glass or china.
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=38&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Raisin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;if you have very hard floors or counters (real tile floors) corelle will break very easily.  I have vinyl and wood flooring and fake counters (can't remember what it is called but it is covered chipboard) and my corelle rarely breaks.  most of my milchig set got broken when we rented a vacation cottage with lovely stone floors.
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;I never made my own pasta as dh forbid it, said I had enough to do.  I suggest you googleFresh Pasta recipes and see what comes up.
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Micheal Aram has some gorgeous pieces of Judaica in his collection. I don't know if one single piece will cost you $300 but all his pieces are part of individual collections and coordinate. He has some stunning seder plates and menorahs.
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=11165&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;yummymummy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: re: do you set place settings with china at the table fo&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt; &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Chayalle wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt;    &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt; &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Quote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt;    &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;yummymummy wrote: 
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kids get corelle dishes by me (and they don't get crystal stemware either) 
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Ha! We had corelle when we were first married. One fine day, dd, age about two, picked up her plate and cheerfully whacked it on the table, smashing it to bits. B&amp;quot;H for His daily miracles, she wasn't hurt. That day I went out and bought a set of Melmac dishes. We still have them, and that's what little kids get. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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A couple of years ago, I was giving my kids Kugel on late Friday afternoon when I dropped a corelle plate.  It bumped against the counter (not a huge drop) and shattered into a godzillion pieces.  A shard flew into my eye and blood was coming out....I didn't even know what to do, called my neighbor and she called Hatzalah.  They took me to the house of a frum eye surgeon and he checked my eye.  B&amp;quot;H the shard had not embedded and the scratch was superficial.  He bandaged up the eye and all was fine.
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I don't use it much since then.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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Wow, my corelle has been dropped, banged, thrown, etc. and I've never had a problem. Did either of you notify the company? I think this is very rare. Also, I just want to add that my corelle has a very light colored pattern so it fits in nicely with my china but otherwise I would defnitely use the &amp;quot;fancy&amp;quot; plastic plates.
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=10250&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;IYamWhoIYam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Yikes!! My son got tie-dye all over himself!!!&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;How do I get tie-dye off skin???? One hand is green, the other is red, and his feet look tie-dyed LOL. Oh, and this was with wearing an apron and gloves.
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=4787&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Mommy F.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Everything disposable for kids, that's my opinion
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt; &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;suzyq wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt;    &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;A great recipe I found was a can of lemon pie filling mixed with an angel cake mix, topped with almonds.  It's so simple- you just mix the pie filling and cake mix together (no additional ingredients), sprinkle the almonds on top and bake at 350 for about half an hour.  It was very yummy!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3047&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;louche&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: re: help, clean linen smells from being in the closet!&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt; &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;amother wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt;    &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;Wow! Thanks for taking the time to respond! I fold my linen right when it comes out of the dryer (when its still warm) but I make sure its not wet. Maybe the heat turns to moist? should I wait til its not warm anymore? I also like to fold it very compact &amp;amp; neat. Perhaps thats why there is no air. I keep it on top shelf of closet behind other things &amp;amp; it could sit there for about a month. you mentioned storing it with soap. should I leave  the soap in the plastic or take it out? will the soap melt or get on the linen? thnx!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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Yes, wait till it's cooled off. Fabric warm form the dryer can still retain some moisture and will feel dry because it's warm. Once it cools off, you can feel if it's damp--it will feel cool. I hold it up to my top lip, which is more sensitive than my fingers. No, I am not kissing my laundry, LOL! 
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Folding it compactly is fine, and a month isn't that long. Six months, yes. If the soap is in paper you can leave it wrapped; if in plastic, I'd unwrap it. It will not stain the laundry unless it stays there for a very, very long time, or gets wet.  You can wrap the soap in a scrap of thin fabric or in a paper towel if you're concerned about staining, but I've never had a problem. 
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Subject: How common are tenaim before the wedding?&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Please state which locale you are writing about. To your knowledge, how common is it to do tenaim soon after a couple gets engaged, meaning not at the wedding itself?
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My friend says it's common in the yeshivishe velt, but I have seen it only rarely.
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1232&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;chocolate moose&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;what a question
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	<title>New York related Inquiries :: RE: First pair of shoes</title>
	<link>http://imamother.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1585644#1585644</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1232&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;chocolate moose&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 10:39 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 24&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt; &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;spoons wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt;    &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt; &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;chocolate moose wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt;    &lt;tr&gt;      &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;Did your dr recommend such shoes?  Mine didn't.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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recommend what &amp;quot;such shoes&amp;quot;? Target type or expensive type?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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Expensive/leather, name brandf, etc.
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	<title>Inquiries &amp; Offers :: RE: do you set place settings with china at the table for kids?</title>
	<link>http://imamother.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1585642#1585642</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1232&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;chocolate moose&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 10:37 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 25&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Hard call.  I'm not sure I'd take the risk.
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	<title>Chinuch / Education :: RE: Is this a good idea?</title>
	<link>http://imamother.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1585641#1585641</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://imamother.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3228&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Tehilla&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: re: Is this a good idea?&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 10:37 am (GMT -4)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 54&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;I read it as her referring to amother.
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