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binah918
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 Tue, Apr 04 2006, 5:27 am
My husband has recently become allergic to wine, so we've been making kiddush on Kedem grape juice. A friend of his just told him that a number of years ago there was a question regarding Kedem, and if it could be used for kiddush. I guess there was a concern that it was too watered down, and therefore required the brocha shehakol. No one I've spoken to has heard about this.
Does anyone know what the situation is now?
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shabbatiscoming
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Tue, Apr 04 2006, 5:33 am
are you asking specifically kedem? or grape juice?
I know of a family who uses grape juice all year round and on pesach uses kedem and so I would assume that it is hagafen.
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binah918
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Tue, Apr 04 2006, 6:18 am
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Yes, I want to know about Kedem specifically.
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mir11
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Tue, Apr 04 2006, 6:21 am
I dont think kedem is watered down (its 100% juice)
the question about kiddush might be if kedem is considered mevushal or not.
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Mama Bear
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Tue, Apr 04 2006, 6:21 am
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It's hagafen. Even watered down grape juice (which it's not) is hagaffen.
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chocolate moose
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Tue, Apr 04 2006, 6:39 am
do you mean the fizzy kind? that was a shaylah years back
the reguarl kind has to be watered down to less than half for shehakol
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Kumphort
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Tue, Apr 04 2006, 7:53 am
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actually on most of their bottles they state I dont remember the exact wording that this product is acceptable for kiddush and arbah kosos.
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BrachaVHatzlocha
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Tue, Apr 04 2006, 7:10 pm
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yes, it says that on the bottles - kosher for kiddush and 4 kosos. it's not watered down and it's hagufen. We usually use grape juice (whatever we have, mishpacha, kedem) for kiddush as my dh is not a big wine drinker
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