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yo'ma




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Sep 29 2010, 2:23 pm
I know yom tov is hebrew, but what is yontif? Is it yiddish or it became a word because when people say good yom tov, they say it fast and it sounds like that?
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yummymummy




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Sep 29 2010, 2:44 pm
and how about shala shudis Very Happy
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seeker




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Sep 29 2010, 2:53 pm
I actually wonder about shalashudis more than yontif... because if I stretch it in my mind I can see yontif evolving from some accent/fast talking but I just cannot make seudah shlishis sound like shaleshudis no matter how hard I try... maybe some yiddish person here can elucidate...
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yummymummy




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Sep 29 2010, 3:01 pm
seeker wrote:
I actually wonder about shalashudis more than yontif... because if I stretch it in my mind I can see yontif evolving from some accent/fast talking but I just cannot make seudah shlishis sound like shaleshudis no matter how hard I try... maybe some yiddish person here can elucidate...


I believe it's shalosh seudos said quickly
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seeker




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Sep 29 2010, 5:22 pm
Yeah but why call the third meal shalosh seudos? That means THREE meals, not THIRD meal... it confuses me!
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RachelB




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 30 2010, 3:54 pm
How about shalachmunes. That's how my savta says Mishloach Manot Smile
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freidasima




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 30 2010, 3:57 pm
gee, that's how I talk at home...I speak "Israeli" outside and "Ashkenazis" at home which the kids think is really funny.

But when I hear my Israeli born children saying "I'm gonna chalish mommy", I burst out loud. Ashkenazi modern orthodox Jewish children born in Israel whose mother tongue is Hebrew saying that!
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Zus




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 30 2010, 4:26 pm
Yontif is the yiddish version of yom tov.

Just like besoilem = beth olam, besalmen = beth almin, balabuste = baalat bayit, yankef = yaakov and many more.
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shabbatiscoming




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 30 2010, 4:31 pm
freidasima wrote:
gee, that's how I talk at home...I speak "Israeli" outside and "Ashkenazis" at home which the kids think is really funny.

But when I hear my Israeli born children saying "I'm gonna chalish mommy", I burst out loud. Ashkenazi modern orthodox Jewish children born in Israel whose mother tongue is Hebrew saying that!
hey FS, I do that too. im sure my daughter gets confused from hearing shabbas and shabbat or etrog and esrog and many other ones Smile
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shalhevet




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 30 2010, 6:59 pm
seeker wrote:
Yeah but why call the third meal shalosh seudos? That means THREE meals, not THIRD meal... it confuses me!


Because we eat the first two meals because we're hungry, but eating the third one, even if we are not, shows all three were l'koved Shabbos and not for ourselves.
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