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PIDYON SHEVUYIM - Yanky Ostreicher. Please take a moment....



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First Lady




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 22 2012, 9:02 am
Dear Family, Friends and Business Acquaintances,

Yanky Ostreicher has been unjustly incarcerated for 10 months in Palmasola Prison (Santa Cruz, Bolivia), one of the most notorious prisons in the world. Our elected officials, while being aware of the situation, have not been doing much other than receiving updates from the family.The situation has gotten progressively worse and we are now in dire need of government intervention.

We are asking you to please take a few minutes out of your busy schedule to call the offices of the officials listed below and respectfully ask them to please step up their efforts in obtaining Yanky's release.

> Senator Charles Schumer - 202-224-6542
> Senator Kirsten Gillibrand - 212-688-6262

Please forward this message to as many people as possible and try to call at least once a week.

Thank You
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Ima2NYM_LTR




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 22 2012, 9:43 am
what is he accused of? has their been a trial? what is the sentence? is he guilty?
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Rubber Ducky




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 22 2012, 9:51 am
Vs Iz Neias ran an article last year on Mr. Ostreicher: Sucre La Paz, Bolivia - Outrage: NYC Orthodox Businessman Falls Prey To Bolivian Con Artist, Ends Up Jailed
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Barbara




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 22 2012, 9:51 am
Ima2NYM_LTR wrote:
what is he accused of? has their been a trial? what is the sentence? is he guilty?


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44.....katM8

Human rights groups apparently support him

http://mynorthwest.com/?sid=53.....d=651

I'm not sure what the US can do, OTOH.
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Raisin




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 22 2012, 9:56 am
Barbara wrote:
Ima2NYM_LTR wrote:
what is he accused of? has their been a trial? what is the sentence? is he guilty?


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44.....katM8

Human rights groups apparently support him

http://mynorthwest.com/?sid=53.....d=651

I'm not sure what the US can do, OTOH.


The US can go into other countries and arrest other countries citizens for internet crime, but they cannot extract a man from this sort of mess?
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yiddishekup




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 22 2012, 10:05 am
I wonder why this case gets so little publicity. Probably because he's innocent. Poor poor family!
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Barbara




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 22 2012, 10:06 am
Raisin wrote:
Barbara wrote:
Ima2NYM_LTR wrote:
what is he accused of? has their been a trial? what is the sentence? is he guilty?


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44.....katM8

Human rights groups apparently support him

http://mynorthwest.com/?sid=53.....d=651

I'm not sure what the US can do, OTOH.


The US can go into other countries and arrest other countries citizens for internet crime, but they cannot extract a man from this sort of mess?


No, they cannot force another country release someone from prison. Any more than Israel could force Japan to turn over the 3 young men arrested there.

I'm not sure what you're referring to re arrests in foreign countries for internet crime. Remember, the US couldn't even arrest Roman Polanski. If a foreign country agrees to cooperate with the US, they do. Bolivia isn't cooperating.

Which isn't to say that putting pressure on the US to pressure Bolivia is a bad idea. It can't hurt.
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Raisin




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 22 2012, 10:09 am
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tec......html

I think the US are using news laws meant to used against terrorists to do this.

Didn't one of the bochurim end up going to prison in Israel?

(and I am sure japanese prisons are health spas compared to a south american one)
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Barbara




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 22 2012, 10:31 am
Raisin wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/9141514/Home-Secretary-approves-extradition-of-student-Richard-ODwyer-over-pirate-TV-website.html

I think the US are using news laws meant to used against terrorists to do this.

Didn't one of the bochurim end up going to prison in Israel?

(and I am sure japanese prisons are health spas compared to a south american one)


There's a treaty.

Pursuant to the treaty, they asked another country to arrest someone who is alleged to have committed a crime in the US.

The country complied.

Now the country is being asked to extradite. Its not automatic. Note the part about one guy fighting extradition for 10 years.

This is very different from telling another country "you have someone in your country whom you think committed a crime in your country, but we demand that you release him." Not gonna happen. Didn't happen in Japan. (Where Israel negotiated for allowing them to serve their sentences in Israel. Japan is a lot more civilized than Bolivia, though. I fear that won't happen.)

I feel very bad about this guy, and do hope the US exerts as much influence as possible. But short of an Entebbe style raid, all the US can do is pressure.
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lovemykids




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 22 2012, 2:02 pm
The reason it's getting so little publicity is because Jacob was told that if the media gets involved his chances of being released decrease drastically.
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lovemykids




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 22 2012, 2:28 pm
The number to Schumer's office is wrong. This is the correct number 212-486-4430
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MrsDash




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 22 2012, 2:30 pm
yiddishekup wrote:
I wonder why this case gets so little publicity. Probably because he's innocent. Poor poor family!


Makes me wonder how many more people are out there that we have no clue about.
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causemommysaid




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 22 2012, 2:38 pm
a big problem is that the US has a horrible relationship politically with Bolivia.

I thought he was released on bail. Was that revoked?
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lovemykids




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 22 2012, 2:41 pm
Yes it was revoked illegally.
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Mama Bear




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 22 2012, 2:51 pm
Raisin wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/9141514/Home-Secretary-approves-extradition-of-student-Richard-ODwyer-over-pirate-TV-website.html

I think the US are using news laws meant to used against terrorists to do this.

Didn't one of the bochurim end up going to prison in Israel?

(and I am sure japanese prisons are health spas compared to a south american one)
whoa....wehat?? There are several dozen really well known sites with links like these and nno one has been arrested - why pinkt this guy?
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