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ruth
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 Tue, Oct 21 2014, 12:36 am
I've barely recuperated from chagim, and now its the shabbos project. No one prep'd us for this and yet the shul is asking people to host. I do the food prep at my shul and no one discussed this with me. Can someone host me out of my town -- I need a break and want to run away from home. 
I can understand the logic that they want to get people who might still be on a yomim noraim "high".... but, personally, for me, I can't do this.
It certainly wasn't a woman who designed and scheduled this to be on parshat noach!
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IMHopinion
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Tue, Oct 21 2014, 12:37 am
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I was going to post- definitely a man's idea!
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naomi6
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Tue, Oct 21 2014, 12:41 am
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The spirit of the Yomim Tovim makes sense. One more person for Shabbos it's not such a big deal- such a big Zchus to be part of it.
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seeker
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Tue, Oct 21 2014, 12:47 am
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I agree; I am really excited by the concept of the Shabbos Project (won't be able to participate this time because we will be away this week anyway, but) but I think most people need some downtime/back to routine time after almost a month of yomtov. Besides, I would have wanted to put a lot of energy into preparations beforehand such as organizing challah events and such, but all my energy of the past month went into yomtov and fitting in other existing obligations around yomtov and catching up after yomtov, etc. We could use a project like this during some dull time like near the end of cheshvan - far enough after Tishrei to regroup, but still not yet Chanukah. Or between Chanukah and Purim; no one's getting stressed over Tu Bishvat.
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Tue, Oct 21 2014, 12:48 am
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I totally agree with u op!!! Yom tov was very overwhelming for me & it will be some time b4 myself & my house get back to normal.
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ElTam
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Tue, Oct 21 2014, 1:16 am
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I'm actually bummed because I have non-Jewish OOT guests coming that weekend. I feel like I am missing out!
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shabbatiscoming
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Tue, Oct 21 2014, 1:19 am
The idea came about from last year's shabbat project that was done in South Africa, with a LOOOT of success.
Cheif Rabbi Warren Goldstein helped to get the ball rolling with the idea. I believe that last year it was also very close to the chagim.
I dont actually see the big deal. Its just getting a shabbat meal together. Yes, if you have guests you need to make more food, but why is that different than any other shabbat with guests?
I wish I knew people to invite. I live in an all religious yishuv  so no takers here.
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seeker
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Tue, Oct 21 2014, 1:24 am
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Because I don't HAVE other Shabbats with guests, typically; and when I do I certainly wouldn't choose to do it right now because now all I need is a BREAK. The week after chagim is even more exhausting than during chagim because I have work plus housework to catch up on plus need to get everyone back to school after being totally off schedule. Plus maybe you want to do more than just get a shabbos meal together - maybe you want to be involved in publicity, or have an educational event to prepare people for the Shabbos itself. But even without all that I still think I'd just need a break - we do like to have company, do chessed, and reach out, but we're basically introverts at heart and after about four weeks of lots of family time and shul time and community time and running around, we are ready to just hibernate for a couple of weeks.
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RachelEve14
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Tue, Oct 21 2014, 1:30 am
Last year they did Lech Lecha.
If you look at the program, it IS a big deal. It's not just "having guests." It was so successful because they did community meals, had inspiration for people used to being on their phones all day, arranged interesting services and shiurim, challah baking on Thursday.
If someone invited my non dati parents to a Shabbot meal they might drive there, have fun, and come home and turn on the TV. The idea of the Shabbot project was to help people be in an environment where they can experience Shabbot. It's much more than inviting someone for lunch.
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ValleyMom
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Tue, Oct 21 2014, 1:39 am
Who's idea to have this after Tishrei??!
NOT a woman I ASSURE you-It would have to be a male...
:-)
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shabbatiscoming
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Tue, Oct 21 2014, 1:43 am
| RachelEve14 wrote: | Last year they did Lech Lecha.
If you look at the program, it IS a big deal. It's not just "having guests." It was so successful because they did community meals, had inspiration for people used to being on their phones all day, arranged interesting services and shiurim, challah baking on Thursday.
If someone invited my non dati parents to a Shabbot meal they might drive there, have fun, and come home and turn on the TV. The idea of the Shabbot project was to help people be in an environment where they can experience Shabbot. It's much more than inviting someone for lunch. | I get all of that. But the things you are talking about dont have all that much prep needed. No?
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ruth
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Tue, Oct 21 2014, 2:57 am
I'm the OP.
shabbat in a yishuv is different than in a city. The insularity of a yishuv lends itself organically a total shabbat vibe. Its harder to convey that in a city setting.
I know about the original So African event... this is a wealthy community, they did the meals al fresco with hired waiters/servants. Look at the video.
I'm a SINGLE mom, no house help. In fact, I had to make my sukka by myself. shop, cook, clean, host, clean, cook, clean again.... can barely sit and converse with my guests.
I also work at my shul setting up food. they don't have proper janitorial help. I did the set up for all of the kiddushin, seudat shlishit, simchat torah eve and am.... plus had hospitality at home. I haven't finished putting away my sukkah. im exhausted.
my main waterline broke during the chag and I had to pay a lot of money to fix, have a lot of work to catch up with.....
In my community, I would have to escort them to shul and schmooze and explain, yet I have to set up kiddush and seudat shlishit.
My shul was late in coming on to the project, I just found out they are planning a lunch at shul. I am usually the one who does picking up and delivering and setting up... why didn't anyone talk to me about this?
I would be much more enthusiastic if it was Tu B'shvat time as someone mentioned.
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Raisin
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Tue, Oct 21 2014, 3:49 am
I also wonder. Its not an easy time for shul rabbanim to plan programs either. And I think regular shul goers are fed up of shul.
A couple of weeks later would work so much better for us.
Who planned this date???? 
Its also the first available weekend for simchos, we have two in our tiny community this weekend.
I think it is a huge missed oppportunity, its an awesome idea but many people will not be able to participate as much as they would like.
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etky
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Tue, Oct 21 2014, 4:08 am
| seeker wrote: | | Because I don't HAVE other Shabbats with guests, typically; and when I do I certainly wouldn't choose to do it right now because now all I need is a BREAK. The week after chagim is even more exhausting than during chagim because I have work plus housework to catch up on plus need to get everyone back to school after being totally off schedule. Plus maybe you want to do more than just get a shabbos meal together - maybe you want to be involved in publicity, or have an educational event to prepare people for the Shabbos itself. But even without all that I still think I'd just need a break - we do like to have company, do chessed, and reach out, but we're basically introverts at heart and after about four weeks of lots of family time and shul time and community time and running around, we are ready to just hibernate for a couple of weeks. |
This. Exactly. We are also drained and chag-ed out and need some alone time to regroup before 'surfacing' again. Not the best time for outreach that requires emotional energy. Not to mention that I informed DH that this Shabbat will be take-out after having cooked each and every meal this holiday season, many of which we b"h shared with guests. This week I am trying to finally focus on work. Even housework that I desperately need to catch up on will have to wait. Though I kind of feel like we're missing out, I'm sort of glad that this project is not happening in my yishuv AFAIK. I would happily be up for it in a few weeks time. Not now.
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Culturedpearls
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Tue, Oct 21 2014, 6:33 am
I vote we all go to South Africa & be hosted! Seriously it's no big deal if you have waiters, live in help...
I'm excited to participate though. I have people sleeping over for it. Doing the challa bake on Thursday night.
I think it will be amazing.
True the date isn't great but it's done & now I'm just running with it.
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ChutzPAh
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Tue, Oct 21 2014, 9:05 am
| naomi6 wrote: | | The spirit of the Yomim Tovim makes sense. One more person for Shabbos it's not such a big deal- such a big Zchus to be part of it. |
Did you host people for succot or go away?
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scrltfr
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Tue, Oct 21 2014, 9:10 am
| naomi6 wrote: | | The spirit of the Yomim Tovim makes sense. One more person for Shabbos it's not such a big deal- such a big Zchus to be part of it. |
I'm due in a week. It's a big deal for me!
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daisy
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Tue, Oct 21 2014, 9:17 am
I agree.
I was told that they wanted to do it before Shabbos came in too early on Friday. And the week of Lech-lecha is Halloween.
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rosenbal
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Tue, Oct 21 2014, 9:23 am
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I think there would have been a lot more momentum and participation if it was in a few weeks tome. In my community it would have been a much bigger deal if people and shuls would have had time and emotional energy to gear up for it properly.
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shabbatiscoming
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Tue, Oct 21 2014, 9:25 am
| Culturedpearls wrote: | I vote we all go to South Africa & be hosted! Seriously it's no big deal if you have waiters, live in help...
I'm excited to participate though. I have people sleeping over for it. Doing the challa bake on Thursday night.
I think it will be amazing.
True the date isn't great but it's done & now I'm just running with it. |  but then there is a whole different aveera. Trust me.
I also believe that it was such a huge success in south africa because so many Jews there are traditional so this was not the craziest stretch of an idea.
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