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Birth Control, Jewish Law Collide At Stern



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amother


 

Post Wed, Feb 18 2015, 6:25 pm
http://www.thejewishweek.com/n.....stern

Wed, 02/18/2015
Hannah Dreyfus
Staff Writer

For the Stern College women gathered for a lecture on birth control and Jewish law last week, it wasn’t an easy pill to swallow.

Even in this Modern Orthodox setting in Midtown Manhattan, far from the charedi precincts of Borough Park and Williamsburg, Rabbi Moshe Kahn’s position raised questions.

“No rabbi can know a couple well enough to make this decision,” said the rabbi, a longtime Talmud teacher at Stern, referring to the common practice among Orthodox couples of visiting a rabbi before marriage to get a yea or nay on whether to use birth control.

The custom, he told the nearly three dozen women and sprinkling of men, is infantilizing, unfounded and psychologically damaging. The “fallout” of such rabbinical intervention, he added, could lead to “unwanted children” and “unhappy marriages.”

After his talk, the first public presentation at Stern on birth control and Jewish law since 2006, Rabbi Kahn was peppered with questions, albeit ones written on index cards: “What if the couple has fertility issues?” and “When is too long to wait?”

And then, the “f” word appeared: “Were feminist ideologies influencing his views?”

The questions underscore how delicate the issue of s-xual and reproductive choice is — even in the relatively progressive (by Orthodox standards) environs of Stern College for Women. And it comes as more and more Modern Orthodox women seem to be delaying childbirth, trying to negotiate the twin pressures of Jewish tradition and the feminist ideal of personal choice.

“The idea that relations is not just for procreation is inherently a feminist idea,” said senior Sarah Robinson, 22, a co-organizer of the event. She called Rabbi Kahn’s claim that feminism and birth control are unrelated “ironic,” given that female empowerment underlies the entire concept of birth control.

“You can’t really separate between the two,” she said.

But for some, perhaps many Stern women, the point about feminism seems moot. “Choosing not to take the pill is what’s weird,” said another attendee, 20, who wished to remain anonymous due to the private nature of the subject. When one of her friends got pregnant at the age of 20 shortly after getting married, “people were pretty shocked,” she said. “There’s an assumption that people are going to take the pill. I think it’s comforting that you can get married without being ready to have kids right away.”

The 2013 Pew Research Center’s survey on American Jews added a sense of urgency to the birth control conversation. The study found that Jewish adults ages 40-59 report having had an average of 1.9 children, compared with an average of 2.2 children per adult in the same cohort of the general public. Though the Orthodox birthrate remains high at 4.1, overall numbers for Jews fall short even of the replacement rate.

Among Orthodox Jews, birth control is a line in the sand, of sorts, dividing different Orthodox camps. In chasidic and black-hat circles, birth control is rarely used, and, when it is, must be authorized by a rabbi. On the more liberal end of the Orthodox spectrum, couples use birth control more often, but it is still routine to ask a rabbi for a heter, or permission, for a host of reasons, ranging from emotional to financial.

“We asked a rabbi if we could use birth control for our first year of marriage because my husband and I were both still in school,” said Ilana W., 22, a Modern Orthodox woman on the conservative side of the continuum who got married last year. The rabbi replied that it wasn’t permissible. “He told us that unless we have severe mental health problems, we have no good reason to push off pregnancy,” she said. “You’re not supposed to delay fulfilling a mitzvah,” she said, referring to the biblical commandment to have children. “Even if you have a convincing case, most rabbis won’t give you a heter,” she said.

But for Modern Orthodox women further on the left, birth control can represent a badge of pride and autonomy.

Avital Habshush, 19, called Rabbi Kahn’s position “empowering.”

“Encouraging women to take control of their bodies is so important,” said Habshush, who wants to become a yoetzet halacha, a female expert in Jewish law.

In a blog post two years ago entitled “Feminist, Orthodox, Engaged and on the Pill,” Simi Lampert, the Stern graduate who made headlines after refusing to take down an article in a Yeshiva University publication explicitly discussing relations, described feeling “liberated” after taking the pill.

“There’s something psychologically powerful about being on birth control. I suppose it’s about claiming my body as my own. … I’m in control of my cycle, something which for centuries for women — and a decade for me — wasn’t a possibility,” she wrote.

Rabbi Kahn published a heavily researched article on the subject of birth control and Jewish law in 2010. The article was written primarily in response to Rabbi Hershel Schachter, rosh yeshiva at Yeshiva University, who published an article in the 1980s discouraging the use of the birth control pill. It was turned down by two mainstream Orthodox publications. Instead, Yeshivat Chovevei Torah, an institution known for a more liberal brand of Orthodoxy, published the article.

“They were afraid my article would limit the role of rabbanim [rabbis],” said Rabbi Kahn, explaining the two publications’ decision to reject the article.

Dr. Bat Sheva Marcus, an Orthodox relations therapist recently profiled in The New York Times for her work with haredi women, praised Rabbi Kahn’s position and Stern’s decision to host the event.

“Oh, my god, he said that in public? Good for him!” she said, referring to Rabbi Kahn’s defense of birth control and personal autonomy.

Marcus, who works with women across the religious spectrum, said that most Modern Orthodox women use birth control, and her “gut” feeling is that most don’t ask a rabbi.

“We want a world where children are wanted. If a couple’s not making the decision about birth control, that’s no guarantee,” she said.

Marcus laughed off the concern, raised by other Stern students, that the use of birth control might limit family size.

“Most Modern Orthodox couples are going to aim for three or four kids, whether they start at 22 or 29,” she said.

Dr. Michelle Friedman, a psychiatrist specializing in women’s mental health, said that she doesn’t believe Modern Orthodox women’s embrace of birth control is anything new. A study Friedman co-published in 2009 on observant married Jewish women and their s-xual lives found that although 90 percent of women reported using birth control, only half of the women surveyed consulted a rabbi about the decision.

“What’s new is not that women are using birth control, but that a new generation of women need to hear about it,” she said. “There’s a new crop of observant, college-aged women who care and want to know more.”

Friedman’s data also suggested that Jewish women do not bring questions about their s-xual lives to the scrutiny of their rabbi with the same frequency as other, equally serious matters.

Stern’s Sarah Robinson, who co-organized Rabbi Kahn’s appearance, said she assumes most students at Stern are uninformed about the biology of birth control or its place in Jewish law. Though there is “some discussion in the classroom” about the subject — she mentioned a human s-xuality course offered in the psychology department — conversations aren’t accessible to all students. Her priority in organizing the event was to “open up the conversation.”

Jennifer van Amerongen, 19, a Stern freshman, chose to attend the event because it sounded interesting. Most of her friends are not yet dating and not one of them is married. Still, she was happy to hear a rabbi so openly discuss the psychological damage that could be caused by the premature decision to have children.

“I’m happy I came, and I’m glad they had this event. But I’m not getting married anytime soon,” she said. She paused. “I hope my mom doesn’t read that.”

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seeker




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 18 2015, 7:24 pm
Nice idea but I have issues with a few things in this report. Not the least of which is the way they seem to be pushing "the pill." There are other BC methods; was there also discussion of potential health effects of artificial hormones?

And that bit about starting later not limiting the number of kids just doesn't sound logical to me. Maybe not for every family, but in the population as a whole I imagine it would. If you start at 22 and things take longer than planned (either due to fertility issues or due to needing more time to recover between children or whatever) you can likely still have your 3-4 children, but if you get that reality check at 30, well good luck but. I'd sooner argue that the benefits outweigh the risks, rather than say it won't make a difference either way.

The article conveniently omits any rebuttal of this patently false statement: "The idea that relations is not just for procreation is inherently a feminist idea" (what, before feminism nobody had relations other than for conception? Not even going into Jewish outlook on this.)

Basically, great concept but needs work.
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amother


 

Post Wed, Feb 18 2015, 7:25 pm
Pretty upsetting. Basically A "Rabbi" came and told them not to consider halacha while making life decisions. Modern Orthodoxy is the next Reform.
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vintagebknyc




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 18 2015, 7:26 pm
amother wrote:
Pretty upsetting. Basically A "Rabbi" came and told them not to consider halacha while making life decisions. Modern Orthodoxy is the next Reform.


it is beyond unacceptable to lash this out as amother.
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Maya




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 18 2015, 7:26 pm
amother wrote:
Pretty upsetting. Basically A "Rabbi" came and told them not to consider halacha while making life decisions. Modern Orthodoxy is the next Reform.

Basically, an anonymous person came and made a completely ignorant comment about something she has obviously no clue about.
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amother


 

Post Wed, Feb 18 2015, 7:32 pm
Maya wrote:
Basically, an anonymous person came and made a completely ignorant comment about something she has obviously no clue about.
I am well aware of the way that you bully people who dare criticize Modern Orthodox, while criticizing Chassidim and saying my leaders are self-serving is fine. I am not going to be intimidated by this.

And yes, I am amother because I'd like to have a positive interaction with you on other threads, which you'll refuse to have if you know who I am, because you do what I said above.
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amother


 

Post Wed, Feb 18 2015, 7:33 pm
She leaves out one very important fact:
Many right wing orthodox rabbis will not give a heter for BC before the first child, but they DO give heteirim for using BC after a child is born. By leaving out this important fact, the facts are misconstrued.
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Maya




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 18 2015, 7:36 pm
amother wrote:
I am well aware of the way that you bully people who dare criticize Modern Orthodox, while criticizing Chassidim and saying my leaders are self-serving is fine. I am not going to be intimidated by this.

And yes, I am amother because I'd like to have a positive interaction with you on other threads, which you'll refuse to have if you know who I am, because you do what I said above.

FTR, I took birth control without a heter while I was still very Chassidish. You know why? Because your leaders ARE self serving and couldn't see past their control enough to grant me a measly heter to save my sanity.
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seeker




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 18 2015, 7:41 pm
Maya wrote:
FTR, I took birth control without a heter while I was still very Chassidish. You know why? Because your leaders ARE self serving and couldn't see past their control enough to grant me a measly heter to save my sanity.

OK we already know you left Chasidism and have a lot to say about it, keep saying it somewhere else, can we get back on topic here? This was potentially a very interesting thread. It was going to be controversial anyway but you don't need to jump right away to the most inflammatory tangent that is only barely relevant.
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amother


 

Post Wed, Feb 18 2015, 7:42 pm
Definitely agree that the facts are not all there--there is no mention of the concept of having fulfilled pru urvu within various opinions-1 boy 1 girl, 2 boys 2 girls, etc. This might take into account the number of "modern orthodox" not getting heterim. They might not need once they are yotzei. Then (to some)
it is not considered a heter. The obligation is complete.
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Maya




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 18 2015, 7:43 pm
Yeah I'll shut up now and you can go back on topic. Which was what again? Oh right. Birth control with or without a heter, which incidentally, my post is about.
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monseychick




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 18 2015, 7:48 pm
seeker wrote:
OK we already know you left Chasidism and have a lot to say about it, keep saying it somewhere else, can we get back on topic here? This was potentially a very interesting thread. It was going to be controversial anyway but you don't need to jump right away to the most inflammatory tangent that is only barely relevant.


Seeker, you are right. But you should direct your rebuke at the anonymous poster who vilified a whole segment of Clall Yisroel , not Maya...
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seeker




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 18 2015, 7:51 pm
monseychick wrote:
Seeker, you are right. But you should direct your rebuke at the anonymous poster who vilified a whole segment of Clall Yisroel , not Maya...

Point taken. Carry on.

*reaches for popcorn*
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Maya




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 18 2015, 7:53 pm
What are you sitting back for? The show's over.
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