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Cmon be nice




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Mar 15 2017, 2:06 pm
Whenever the issue of non-insured people came up, Sean Hannity, the big conservative talk show host, would say that emergency rooms treat everybody. Thank you Sean. In other words, they dont like talking about it.
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treestump




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Mar 15 2017, 2:09 pm
MagentaYenta wrote:
Viagra will still be covered.

Click your heels together three times and repeat, 'there is no war on women'.


Also, "why should men have to pay for prenatal care?"
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Chayalle




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Mar 15 2017, 3:23 pm
You should hear my boss, who has many health-related issues due to smoking, blast Obama. He says he couldn't get on an affordable plan that covers what he needs, since Obamacare.
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PinkFridge




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Mar 15 2017, 3:30 pm
I heard someone on Salem radio, can't remember who, not necessarily a host, maybe a guest, say that with the $trillion expected savings, some should be able to be trickled down to the most vulnerable. Whatever that means.
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MagentaYenta




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Mar 15 2017, 3:39 pm
treestump wrote:
Also, "why should men have to pay for prenatal care?"


In the way back days, you bought a policy with or without maternity and prenatal care. If you had an employer providing a group policy, and if you were lucky you could buy a secondary ins. policy just for maternity care. By the late 80's when insurance companies were consolidating groups (many smaller businesses under one group policy) this went by the wayside and most groups started charging everyone for maternity care.
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treestump




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Mar 15 2017, 3:41 pm
MagentaYenta wrote:
In the way back days, you bought a policy with or without maternity and prenatal care. If you had an employer providing a group policy, and if you were lucky you could buy a secondary ins. policy just for maternity care. By the late 80's when insurance companies were consolidating groups (many smaller businesses under one group policy) this went by the wayside and most groups started charging everyone for maternity care.


I don't oppose it. I just love the attitude that everything related to bearing children is placed on the women. As though men were not a partner in the process.
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water_bear88




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Mar 15 2017, 3:46 pm
treestump wrote:
I don't oppose it. I just love the attitude that everything related to bearing children is placed on the women. As though men were not a partner in the process.


How about we make men sign a legally-binding abstinence pledge if they don't want to pay extra for maternity, birth control, or abortion coverage. Large penalties if they can be shown to have gotten a woman pregnant in the time they were on the lower-cost plan Twisted Evil
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MagentaYenta




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Mar 15 2017, 4:04 pm
water_bear88 wrote:
How about we make men sign a legally-binding abstinence pledge if they don't want to pay extra for maternity, birth control, or abortion coverage. Large penalties if they can be shown to have gotten a woman pregnant in the time they were on the lower-cost plan Twisted Evil


Ya know I agree with this. But as a woman who has had to take a pregnancy test to get health ins. without a maternity benefit, I'd prefer the process to be a bit more demoralizing.
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youngishbear




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Mar 15 2017, 4:15 pm
SixOfWands wrote:
More lies about our president. Tom Price, the newly approved HHS Secretary, has told us that the ACA birth control mandate helped no one, Not a single woman in the US can't afford birth control.



I don't understand this.
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water_bear88




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Mar 15 2017, 4:16 pm
MagentaYenta wrote:
Ya know I agree with this. But as a woman who has had to take a pregnancy test to get health ins. without a maternity benefit, I'd prefer the process to be a bit more demoralizing.


Hmm. How about requiring an ad be run with the names of men seeking this abstention, to make sure any self-respecting woman who knows where to check will avoid casual s-x with them? I mean an ad in the back of local papers like some governments use for people seeking name changes, or to state what construction projects have been proposed so residents can file a NIMBY appeal. In other words, subtle but google-able.
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youngishbear




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Mar 15 2017, 4:18 pm
water_bear88 wrote:
How about we make men sign a legally-binding abstinence pledge if they don't want to pay extra for maternity, birth control, or abortion coverage. Large penalties if they can be shown to have gotten a woman pregnant in the time they were on the lower-cost plan Twisted Evil


Didn't Texas also plan to tax self-pleasuring? What a catch-22.
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water_bear88




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Mar 15 2017, 4:21 pm
youngishbear wrote:
Didn't Texas also plan to tax self-pleasuring? What a catch-22.


Wha...? How? Explain, please! I don't even get how that would work. Scratching Head

(And I thought Republicans were against Big-Brother government schemes...)
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treestump




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Mar 15 2017, 4:34 pm
water_bear88 wrote:
Wha...? How? Explain, please! I don't even get how that would work. Scratching Head

(And I thought Republicans were against Big-Brother government schemes...)


A (female) Democrat was sick and tired of hearing her male colleagues trying to control women with one insane law after the next. So she proposed this, tongue in cheek, to make a point.
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amother
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Post Wed, Mar 15 2017, 6:25 pm
Cmon be nice wrote:
Whenever the issue of non-insured people came up, Sean Hannity, the big conservative talk show host, would say that emergency rooms treat everybody. Thank you Sean. In other words, they dont like talking about it.


shock Did he not mention how much more expensive that is? And how many people can't pay (they wouldn't have to rely on the ER if they could afford a regular doctor), causing the hospital to lose money? It's one of the causes of our failing, outrageously expensive health care system.
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amother
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Post Wed, Mar 15 2017, 6:28 pm
amother wrote:
Does Trump think he'll survive this if he has millions off ill Americans with no insurance?


He does and will. Most Trump supporters don't care. If they don't currently have a major illness and lose health care, they'll celebrate no longer being required to pay for a plan, go without health insurance, and be in for a huge shock if they have a health crisis.
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lucky14




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Mar 15 2017, 11:35 pm
I'm so not into politics so don't really understand what's going on exactly with the health insurance, but what is the issue that's be discussed here exactly? That the people who couldn't afford health insurance before Obamacare (but now have a plan due to the lower Obamacare insurance costs) will be dropped and wont have the money to pay for "regular" health insurance plans? Or that they will be dropped and will have to get a "regular" policy and since they're signing up for a new plan their cancer (or whatever other illness) will be deemed a per-existing condition so they wont be covered for it?

and for those people who never signed up for obamacare, but kept their old plans: will this affect them at all?
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amother
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Post Thu, Mar 16 2017, 4:04 am
Just today I was in court and a hospital (the only Level II trauma center for about 150 miles) stated that, if the ACA were repealed and the projections of the congressional budget office regarding the proposed Republican plan materialized, that the hospital would likely stop offering Level II trauma services.

This hospital serves a rural area with a lot of people who would be underinsured or uninsured under the proposed plan, people who are now insured under the expanded Medicaid program of the ACA.

Losing this level II trauma center will negatively impact everyone in the area who may need the specialized trauma care or the services of the specialists who are on staff and provide non trauma services. Those specialists will leave if the level II program ends as the hospital cannot afford to pay them. That means getting transported over 150 miles if you're in a terrible car accident, or driving almost three hours to get certain specialist services - even assuming you have insurance.

These cuts will affect everyone - not just the people who have coverage now and will lose it under the proposed plan.
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