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amother
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Post Wed, Aug 16 2017, 6:35 am
Hi! Im posting imamother to protect our privacy as I am giving some personal information. Let me know if you want to pm to discuss further.

My husband did Title 1 for the past year in New York. Although he was making a lot/hour, it wasnt enough with apt costs (Im a teacher too) and taxes, etc. We just moved out of town and my husband is working for a day school as a special ed rebbe and general teacher. His pay is about what he made with Title 1, but insurance is lower here, less is taken off the paycheck and our rent is 700 dollars less a month than it was in NY. Also theres potential for us to buy a house here, as where in NY there was o potential. I think we made the right decision...only H knows. Let me know if you want more info!
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amother
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Post Wed, Aug 16 2017, 8:17 am
Seeker, you have so much knowledge to share. Would you consider lecturing/providing CE classes?
Perhaps online?
I know it's a lot of work to set it all up, but once you do have it set up, it can generate passive income.

I know it's not an answer to the original question, but I really think that other professionals can benefit from what you have to offer.
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mha3484




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Aug 16 2017, 9:48 am
Another idea, where I live there are a variety of therapy clinics that offer educational services. Does that exist in NY? One speech therapy clinic here offers services for dyslexic children omg is it expensive. I can think of a few other places that have similar concepts.
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seeker




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Aug 16 2017, 10:00 am
amother wrote:
Hi! Im posting imamother to protect our privacy as I am giving some personal information. Let me know if you want to pm to discuss further.

My husband did Title 1 for the past year in New York. Although he was making a lot/hour, it wasnt enough with apt costs (Im a teacher too) and taxes, etc. We just moved out of town and my husband is working for a day school as a special ed rebbe and general teacher. His pay is about what he made with Title 1, but insurance is lower here, less is taken off the paycheck and our rent is 700 dollars less a month than it was in NY. Also theres potential for us to buy a house here, as where in NY there was o potential. I think we made the right decision...only H knows. Let me know if you want more info!

I'm assuming he's working full time though... is part time an option, and if so would that come close to meeting your costs?
My part-time hours here are close to full time but I can't make that final push to bump up to full time. Honestly can't. And I also have the option to give myself a break if one case ends and I wait to take on a new case. It's the only time in my life I can do things like go to the dentist and anything else for myself. I know there are more than plenty of full-time working moms out there but you just have to know yourself and I seriously can't pull it off.
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seeker




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Aug 16 2017, 10:01 am
amother wrote:
Seeker, you have so much knowledge to share. Would you consider lecturing/providing CE classes?
Perhaps online?
I know it's a lot of work to set it all up, but once you do have it set up, it can generate passive income.

I know it's not an answer to the original question, but I really think that other professionals can benefit from what you have to offer.

That is something I strongly consider all the time. I would like to work on it on the side to build up a repertoire but I can't see it being a steady income until one is already established. I need a monthly paycheck.
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seeker




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Aug 16 2017, 10:03 am
mha3484 wrote:
Another idea, where I live there are a variety of therapy clinics that offer educational services. Does that exist in NY? One speech therapy clinic here offers services for dyslexic children omg is it expensive. I can think of a few other places that have similar concepts.

I would love to hear more about that. Do people go to these clinics during the day or are they an after-school situation?

I wonder if there is a market for providing services to homeschoolers? I am pretty sure in NY a homeschooler can have their special ed hours provided at home. I wonder if other states do that.
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mha3484




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Aug 16 2017, 10:08 am
I know my sons yeshiva is putting in an OT room/therapist because kids were leaving during the day to get therapy and they wanted to make it easier for parents and less disruptive for the kids but I am not sure if parents take kids out for academic needs. My son has a different set of issues and get most of what he needs in the school day.

I can totally relate to what you are saying. In a lot of ways I found the unicorn of a full time job and as much as I need to make more money the thought of having a commute again and giving up the flexibility I have scares me.
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amother
Teal


 

Post Wed, Aug 16 2017, 10:18 am
I don't know much about this but would blogging about your expertise be something you might be interested in-seems like people make money from it. Also may be tutoring online people who are being home schooled or in a different time zone? but yeah it would have to be a side gig until it's more established
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amother
Cerise


 

Post Wed, Aug 16 2017, 10:27 am
I was doing the same in NYC as you seeker-P3, SEIT, and also some ed evals. I moved to Monsey several years ago, where we bought a nice, spacious condominium for way less than in the city. And yes, the rates are lower here than they are in the city. However, I feel that the improvement of the quality of life for my family was worth it. I have several friends who came to Monsey from the city with advanced degrees in education, and just opened playgroups/day cares in their homes, as that gave them the most flexibility and allowed them to be home for their children...
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miami85




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Aug 16 2017, 10:59 am
several of my friends got their BCBA and have moved out of town.
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amother
Lemon


 

Post Wed, Aug 16 2017, 12:06 pm
I am a social worker in private practice and I work two nights a week but no weekends.

It's allowed us to buy a house and live more comfortably. I could have stayed in an agency forever but then we would be dirt poor.

I worried very often about the lack of job security and no steady pay check. But I keep in mind that all businesses don't have monthly pay checks and they usually do better than working for a boss.

I think you need to hustle to make it financially. That means putting yourself outside your comfort zone like working a night a week.
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seeker




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Aug 16 2017, 2:52 pm
Hm, online tutoring might be good for at least some income, right now I don't consider it worth even an ounce of time but if I live in a place with lower expenses then it might be worth doing a little $20/hour work here and there.

I could see maybe working one night a week but I'd still need something more substantial and day-based because I can't give up enough night or weekend to make a parnassah. I'd never see my kids. I used to do that when they were babies but now that they're in school the whole day we need to structure family life differently.

While businesses might make more money in the long term, that's usually a luxury for people who can afford investment and risk. Like I said, I'd love to work on something on the side but I still need something to live on.

Blogging is an interesting idea but I'm not sure how much money there'd be in it. It's something I can try to grow on the side. Wonder where I could learn the ropes - I know how to create a blog and I know how to write, but I don't know how to bring in audiences and money.

I think I'll try to hook up with some homeschoolers around here who can tell me what that market might be like. It sounds like it could be the best fit for my skill set, schedule, and needs.
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amother
Papaya


 

Post Wed, Aug 16 2017, 2:59 pm
It sounds like online tutoring and blogging can be something to build up now and if it blossoms into something profitable you can then move on.
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newmommy22




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Aug 16 2017, 5:54 pm
How much does a DI working for early intervention in NJ get paid. That's pretty flexible.
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seeker




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Aug 16 2017, 6:22 pm
newmommy22 wrote:
How much does a DI working for early intervention in NJ get paid. That's pretty flexible.

And does anyone know what the supply/demand situation is for early intervention, not sure if you can generalize "out of town" but if you know how it is where you live it would be helpful. In NY there is not much demand for EI except perhaps for specialists such as BCBA, feeding therapist, e.g.
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Maryann




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Aug 16 2017, 6:34 pm
How do u work a night shift? Who needs a social worker at night?
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Tirza




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Aug 16 2017, 6:54 pm
Most yeshivah day schools have resource rooms, where they provide the same type of services that P3s do. The difference is that you get paid by the school instead of by the Dept. of Education. In my opinion that's better, because working on a W2 rather than a 1099 means you'll pay less in taxes, and
you can get benefits if the school provides them.
Another option is to be a classroom teacher in a special ed program, which can definitely be part time if that's what you prefer.
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cnc




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Aug 16 2017, 7:11 pm
Maryann wrote:
How do u work a night shift? Who needs a social worker at night?

Some clinics and private practices are open until 9 or 10 PM. People that work full time schedule their appointments after regular work hours.
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seeker




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Aug 16 2017, 7:21 pm
Tirza wrote:
Most yeshivah day schools have resource rooms, where they provide the same type of services that P3s do. The difference is that you get paid by the school instead of by the Dept. of Education. In my opinion that's better, because working on a W2 rather than a 1099 means you'll pay less in taxes, and
you can get benefits if the school provides them.
Another option is to be a classroom teacher in a special ed program, which can definitely be part time if that's what you prefer.

But outside NY an average town/city probably has between 1-3 day schools and only need a limited number of resource room teachers, and when you compare that with the proportion of frum women (especially NY emigres) in the field of education/special ed... from what I hear from special ed teachers who have actually moved from NY to other cities, most people do not end up in these positions.
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Maryann




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Aug 16 2017, 7:22 pm
seeker wrote:
But outside NY an average town/city probably has between 1-3 day schools and only need a limited number of resource room teachers, and when you compare that with the proportion of frum women (especially NY emigres) in the field of education/special ed... from what I hear from special ed teachers who have actually moved from NY to other cities, most people do not end up in these positions.


So what positions do they take?
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