Peeled onions, eggs, garlic

Motek

Tue, Jan 25 2005, 6:40 pm

Gemara Nida 17

"Rebbi Shimon ben Yochai declared that somebody who eats peeled garlic, onions or eggs that were left overnight - takes his life into his own hands, and will be taken to task for having done so in the World to Come."

occasionally, when I want to refrigerate a piece of leftover onion or an egg yolk I'm saving to glaze challa, I add some salt so that's it's not just plain onion/egg and it can be used

I wonder how many people know about this Confused

proudmom

Tue, Jan 25 2005, 6:43 pm

Motek wrote:

what is that suppose to mean?

yehudis

Tue, Jan 25 2005, 6:51 pm

Thanks Motek. I heard about not leaving them overnight, but never knew the reason.

ForeverYoung
Guest

Tue, Jan 25 2005, 6:55 pm

does it still apply?

I think it has to do w/ Sheidim, who do not have power anymore
(unless disturbed directly)

Motek

Tue, Jan 25 2005, 6:59 pm

does it still apply? as far as I know, yes, but ask your rav!

and if you could ask him whether this is universally accepted by all poskim

please let us know what he says

yehudis

Tue, Jan 25 2005, 7:37 pm

And what about water that was left overnight? The Shulchan Aruch explicitly says that it doesn't apply, but lots of people wouldn't use it anyway.

Motek

Tue, Jan 25 2005, 8:13 pm

see the mishna in Terumos 8:4 which says, "there are three liquids that are forbidden for consumption if they were uncovered: water, wine, and milk"

all other liquids are fine because snakes don't drink from them

when do they become forbidden? when the amt. of time that passes is one in which a snake can come, drink, and leave

it seems this is a problem only in areas with snake infestation

Motek

Tue, Jan 25 2005, 8:32 pm

why, have a snake problem in Montreal? 8)

the amt. of time is probably a few seconds

gryp

Tue, Jan 25 2005, 8:47 pm

one second, I thought you are allowed to leave an onion overnight as long as you didnt cut the top off!! please tell me im right!

and I wonder where this applies- ie, if I put onions in a salad and leave it to marinate, does that mean I cant eat it the next day??

proudmom

Tue, Jan 25 2005, 8:50 pm

no snake problem bh. so this halacha only applies to people that have snakes?

Motek

Tue, Jan 25 2005, 8:54 pm

RG - as far as I know, you're right, that it's only if you cut off the ends and peeled it

and that if it's together with something else, like in a salad, then of course it's fine

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so this halacha only applies to people that have snakes?

so it seems

yehudis

Tue, Jan 25 2005, 9:03 pm

proudmom wrote:

no snake problem bh. so this halacha only applies to people that have snakes?

I know Chabad people who wouldn't drink water left overnight. I thought it was all of Chabad. Apparently not. Does anybody else hold that way?

Motek

Tue, Jan 25 2005, 9:04 pm

you mean uncovered, right?

how many people want to drink water left out, uncovered, anyway?

yehudis

Tue, Jan 25 2005, 9:07 pm

Motek wrote:

you mean uncovered, right?

Yes.

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how many people want to drink water left out, uncovered, anyway?

You're answering a question with a question Smile

. Do you hold that it is permitted or forbidden?

Motek

Tue, Jan 25 2005, 9:12 pm

as I wrote above, it seems not to be a problem in areas without snakes

ask your LOR

zuncompany

Tue, Jan 25 2005, 10:35 pm

motek... we were told at machon chana we were not allowed to.
Sara

sarahd

Wed, Jan 26 2005, 4:33 am

I also don't drink water that was left uncovered. I never heard that it applies only to snake-infested areas.

micki

Wed, Jan 26 2005, 8:52 am

growing up we always covered our cups with a napkin or something. I even remeber checkinh the cup for snakes if the napkin fell. then my husband saw what I do and he said only if there is a sakana of snakes. like outside. it does dnot apply today when we are in buildings. in the olden days they slept in tents...
BUT he said that its a god habit to have and to keep it covered anyway. so we use water bottles instead!