How is getting drunk tznius - male or female?

Platinum Member Joined: May 06 2007 Posts: 8518

Please explain to me how getting drunk and exhibiting crazy, ridiculous behavior is tznius?

How is it not a chillul hashem where non Jews are?

How is drinking until you get sick or until you go to the hospital not totally against halacha as something that is a sakana?
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You can get drunk without behaving like an idiot, throwing up, etc.

Like I said in the other thread, I've only seen this type of behavior exhibited with teenagers. The adults that I associate with don't act like this.

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When done correctly it is a beautiful thing. I was at seuda where many of the men were drunk. it was very torahdik. When the very essence of a person is torah what comes out when they get drunk is very nice. there were lots of divrie torah, lots of singing. Yes the men were hyper and loud but they were saying such nice divrie torah and they kept praising each other. There was a real atmosphere of achdus. Men who dont drink all year and then do it on purim l'shem mitzvah to increase their happiness on this special day-that is the correct way! In many cases drinking is not done correctly(too young...too much) etc... but when done correctly there is n/t wrong with it. Females drinking is a different story... I dont think it is tznius.

Oh why is this question in a non-anonymous forum? 8) 8) Oh well. I already started typing, but I'll say that I think it's untznius for a woman to be drunk.

I won't lie--I'm not a drinker, but drank on Purim. And I didn't know how much was too much. And I'm STILLLLL feeling sick and awful from it. DH didn't think it was anything (said the amount was normal--probably the dehydration or something), but I don't think stumbling down the avenue on DH's arm, or spending an evening where the neighbors can hear you getting sick, is tznius or lady-like...it's low-class and not modest.

my dh told me that it says in the gemara that a female cant get drunk, because shell do disgusting things then (like have relations with a donkey in the street). when I told my dh that I would never, and how dare he say that Laughing

he replied, im not saying it, its a gemara, so dont say you would never!!! Rolling Eyes

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For a man the following is considered tznius: sing, dance, breakdance, drive a car, a horse, getting drunk, playing sports, give a speech.

For a woman, the following is considered not tznius: sing, dance, breakdance, drive a car, a horse, getting drunk, playing sports, give a speech.

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I don't see how getting drunk is tznius for either men or women.

"my dh told me that it says in the gemara that a female cant get drunk, because shell do disgusting things then (like have relations with a donkey in the street). "

Makes you wonder about the state of sobriety of the folks who came up with this stuff...

Getting drunk is BAD chinuch.
I don't care where you send your child to school or how you cover your hair or what shul you daven at , at, what hechsher you keep, or what butcher you use bla bla bla.
EXCESSIVE DRINKING = BAD CHINUCH.
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