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 Posted: Thu, Jul 29 2010, 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: re: Is this a good idea? |
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Terrible idea.
18 month olds belong with their mothers. So do 3 year olds, if possible.
There should be a law banning all preschools and all babysitters.
Mothers who have children should be with their kids as much as possible.
I know of plenty of children that stay home with Mommy till they are ready for 1st grade!
There is no reason that children have to be "social" and in a program aside from the fact that Mommy wants to be free. If you have a child, be a Mommy! I am my kids MOM.
amother because I am not interested in all the bashing, so no comments please. |
YOU are not interested in bashing? Thank why are you bashing? Excuse me while I  |
I am not bashing. OP asked for opinions about it being a good idea or not. I am entitled to my opinion, just as you are entitled to yours. Having children is a responsibility. Whoever has a child should take care of the child. A child needs its mother for as long as possible. Nothing can replace the love and undivided attention of a devoted mother. I never sent a child to a babysitter, nor did I bring one into my home, when they were under the age of 3. |
And above age 3, you used babysitters? Shame on you - you should be arrested. Don't you know children are a responsibility? You should be by their side every single minute of every single day until their huppah. And even after that.  |
Very funny. I did not use babysitters. My husband, parents, parents in law, or my children were the babysitters. In the USA many people believe in and enjoy raising their own children, thank you. |
How did you have time to play and stimulate your kids when you were clearly spending alot of time polishing your halo and applying for mommy sainthood? Just curious...
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 29 2010, 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: re: Is this a good idea? |
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| Look around you. There are hundreds of children that age who are home with non-Jewish babysitters, and yet you don't see anyone worrying about the influence of a non-Jewish babysitter. |
Maybe you don't. I do. See people worrying, that is.
I was probably the first frum woman in my neighborhood to hire a nonjewish sitter. People questioned either my frumkeit or my sanity, or both. But given a choice between a clean, responsible, reliable nonjewish woman and a frum woman whom I wouldn't trust to open up a carton of milk in a safe manner--that was what it boiled down to at that time--clean, responsible, reliable and safe won out.
My kids are not yet in the parasha, but at times I wonder if the fact that they had a nonfrum sitter will be held against them. But then I remind myself that if people care about this "blot" in their history, these are not the kind of people I want as my children's in-laws.
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 29 2010, 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: re: Is this a good idea? |
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I know exactly what you mean about a bored 18 mo old. Talk to the principal of the Conservative school. If you are comfortable with the kashrut level and arrangements, I'd say sending your child is doing what's best for him. Kids that age don't learn the specifics of halacha--they make clay Shabbat candle holders. They learn to share at a sand table and do make-believe. A good pre-schhol helps socialize kids and motivates them to ask questions that you can answer.
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I tend to agree with this p.o.v.
I was in a (somewhat) similar sitiation, and chose to send DS to a preschool which was not of our hashkafa, and at that young age, it was fine.
We live in Israel. When my eldest was 2.5 years old, we sent him to a gan which was not dati because I liked the staff and overall atmosphere and child:teacher ratio at this gan batter than at the local dati gan. A non-dati Jewish gan here is probably (I think) similar to a Conservative or Reform gan in the US.
Comparing with what some of my friends' kids learned in the local dati gan, it was more or less the same. Most things (colors, numbers, gymboree, nature class, music class) were pretty much the same. The food was kosher. They learned about the holidays and did the "Abba Shabbat/Ima Shabbat" thing every Friday. They did not teach him anything contrary to what we would have taught him, they just left out some of the more "religious" aspects of the teachings. The only way you would know it was not an Orthodox/religious gan was that the children did not daven/learn brachot/say bicat hamazon, and the female teachers wore pants and didn't cover their hair. Then again, this is true of many of our friends and neighbors.
DS had no problems transitioning to a dati gan when he was older, and fondly remembers his first gan.
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 29 2010, 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: re: Is this a good idea? |
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| amother wrote: |
| DrMom wrote: |
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Terrible idea.
18 month olds belong with their mothers. So do 3 year olds, if possible.
There should be a law banning all preschools and all babysitters.
Mothers who have children should be with their kids as much as possible.
I know of plenty of children that stay home with Mommy till they are ready for 1st grade!
There is no reason that children have to be "social" and in a program aside from the fact that Mommy wants to be free. If you have a child, be a Mommy! I am my kids MOM.
amother because I am not interested in all the bashing, so no comments please. |
YOU are not interested in bashing? Thank why are you bashing? Excuse me while I |
I am not bashing. OP asked for opinions about it being a good idea or not. I am entitled to my opinion, just as you are entitled to yours. Having children is a responsibility. Whoever has a child should take care of the child. A child needs its mother for as long as possible. Nothing can replace the love and undivided attention of a devoted mother. I never sent a child to a babysitter, nor did I bring one into my home, when they were under the age of 3. |
And above age 3, you used babysitters? Shame on you - you should be arrested. Don't you know children are a responsibility? You should be by their side every single minute of every single day until their huppah. And even after that. |
Very funny. I did not use babysitters. My husband, parents, parents in law, or my children were the babysitters. In the USA many people believe in and enjoy raising their own children, thank you. |
How did you have time to play and stimulate your kids when you were clearly spending alot of time polishing your halo and applying for mommy sainthood? Just curious... |
I worked with my children/babies right near me. I used cleaning help occasionally, but not babysitters.
I never left cleaning help alone with a child. I enjoyed every minute of caring for my children.
I was doing what my conscience told me to do, I have to answer to myself and to the One above who entrusted me with His precious children. I breastfed until around the age of 2, delivered naturally without epidural, and worked according to my children's schedule, (not working when they were around unless they were infants and/or sleeping). My children are wonderful BH. I have no regrets.
Many mothers claim that they can do the minimum and their kids will turn out fine too.
I wish them all good luck. I hope for the sake of their kids that all will be well.
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 29 2010, 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: re: Is this a good idea? |
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| Look around you. There are hundreds of children that age who are home with non-Jewish babysitters, and yet you don't see anyone worrying about the influence of a non-Jewish babysitter. |
Maybe you don't. I do. See people worrying, that is.
I was probably the first frum woman in my neighborhood to hire a nonjewish sitter. People questioned either my frumkeit or my sanity, or both. But given a choice between a clean, responsible, reliable nonjewish woman and a frum woman whom I wouldn't trust to open up a carton of milk in a safe manner--that was what it boiled down to at that time--clean, responsible, reliable and safe won out.
My kids are not yet in the parasha, but at times I wonder if the fact that they had a nonfrum sitter will be held against them. But then I remind myself that if people care about this "blot" in their history, these are not the kind of people I want as my children's in-laws. |
Being the kind of mother that never left my kids, I would not want them to marry a child that was cared for by someone else, whether Jewish or not. Jewish care is preferred, of course, but only in extenuating circumstances. I abhor seeing Jewish neshamas cared for by non Jews. It nauseates me.
Many mothers have no clue what their kids are being taught and fed.
IMHO, these children are orphans.
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 29 2010, 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: re: Is this a good idea? |
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| amother wrote: |
| louche wrote: |
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| Look around you. There are hundreds of children that age who are home with non-Jewish babysitters, and yet you don't see anyone worrying about the influence of a non-Jewish babysitter. |
Maybe you don't. I do. See people worrying, that is.
I was probably the first frum woman in my neighborhood to hire a nonjewish sitter. People questioned either my frumkeit or my sanity, or both. But given a choice between a clean, responsible, reliable nonjewish woman and a frum woman whom I wouldn't trust to open up a carton of milk in a safe manner--that was what it boiled down to at that time--clean, responsible, reliable and safe won out.
My kids are not yet in the parasha, but at times I wonder if the fact that they had a nonfrum sitter will be held against them. But then I remind myself that if people care about this "blot" in their history, these are not the kind of people I want as my children's in-laws. |
Being the kind of mother that never left my kids, I would not want them to marry a child that was cared for by someone else, whether Jewish or not. Jewish care is preferred, of course, but only in extenuating circumstances. I abhor seeing Jewish neshamas cared for by non Jews. It nauseates me.
Many mothers have no clue what their kids are being taught and fed.
IMHO, these children are orphans. |
I'd never have the patience to homeschool my kids. Tell me, do you think that in the long run, never having attended yeshiva is going to harm your sons. Will you allow your daughters to marry men who attended yeshiva? Seeing as how the idea of yeshiva -- you know, leaving your kids with someone else, having them educated by someone else -- nauseates you.
Or does it only nauseate you when someone else does it?
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 29 2010, 5:36 pm Post subject: re: Is this a good idea? |
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OP here:
Aparently they don't allow non-kosher food (their list of hechsherim is fine with me) and allow chalav stam (which is also fine with me) They won't be learning anything too controversial at 18 months so I'm not really worried about that.
On the other hand, the teachers aren't Jewish (the principal and administration is though), so they're not taught brachos or davening. Then again, they're 18 months old and it's just for 3-4 hours a day...
Also, there was something else in the contract which rubbed me the wrong way and I'm not sure what to make of it, or even if I should take it into consideration when deciding whether or not to send DS: It says in the contract that if you're a member of a conservative synagogue you get a 20% discount on tuition... I'm not really sure what to make of that...
It just seems like an AMAZING program, made just for 18-24 month olds, everything is tiny, even their playground is at their height.
And I do know that some of the kids who go there have questionable last names (I know, dan l'chaf zchus, but you gotta wonder...) Then again, it would only be for one year until he's old enough to go to the frum school...
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| amother wrote: |
Terrible idea.
18 month olds belong with their mothers. So do 3 year olds, if possible.
There should be a law banning all preschools and all babysitters.
Mothers who have children should be with their kids as much as possible.
I know of plenty of children that stay home with Mommy till they are ready for 1st grade!
There is no reason that children have to be "social" and in a program aside from the fact that Mommy wants to be free. If you have a child, be a Mommy! I am my kids MOM.
amother because I am not interested in all the bashing, so no comments please. |
Thanks for highjacking my thread. Hope it makes you feel better. But the question wasn't to send a child to school or not. The question was would it be ok to send to a conservative school.
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 29 2010, 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: re: Is this a good idea? |
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| amother wrote: |
Terrible idea.
18 month olds belong with their mothers. So do 3 year olds, if possible.
There should be a law banning all preschools and all babysitters.
Mothers who have children should be with their kids as much as possible.
I know of plenty of children that stay home with Mommy till they are ready for 1st grade!
There is no reason that children have to be "social" and in a program aside from the fact that Mommy wants to be free. If you have a child, be a Mommy! I am my kids MOM.
amother because I am not interested in all the bashing, so no comments please. |
YOU are not interested in bashing? Thank why are you bashing? Excuse me while I |
I am not bashing. OP asked for opinions about it being a good idea or not. I am entitled to my opinion, just as you are entitled to yours. Having children is a responsibility. Whoever has a child should take care of the child. A child needs its mother for as long as possible. Nothing can replace the love and undivided attention of a devoted mother. I never sent a child to a babysitter, nor did I bring one into my home, when they were under the age of 3. |
And above age 3, you used babysitters? Shame on you - you should be arrested. Don't you know children are a responsibility? You should be by their side every single minute of every single day until their huppah. And even after that. |
Very funny. I did not use babysitters. My husband, parents, parents in law, or my children were the babysitters. In the USA many people believe in and enjoy raising their own children, thank you. |
How did you have time to play and stimulate your kids when you were clearly spending alot of time polishing your halo and applying for mommy sainthood? Just curious... |
I worked with my children/babies right near me. I used cleaning help occasionally, but not babysitters.
I never left cleaning help alone with a child. I enjoyed every minute of caring for my children.
I was doing what my conscience told me to do, I have to answer to myself and to the One above who entrusted me with His precious children. I breastfed until around the age of 2, delivered naturally without epidural, and worked according to my children's schedule, (not working when they were around unless they were infants and/or sleeping). My children are wonderful BH. I have no regrets.
Many mothers claim that they can do the minimum and their kids will turn out fine too.
I wish them all good luck. I hope for the sake of their kids that all will be well. |
Were the older ones with you when you gave birth to the younger ones?
And could you please explain what happened when they started school? You mentioned kindergarten. Why was it suddenly OK for them to be cared for by others when it was time for kindergarten? Why not homeshcool? You don't know who was watching them.
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 29 2010, 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: re: Is this a good idea? |
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OP here:
Aparently they don't allow non-kosher food (their list of hechsherim is fine with me) and allow chalav stam (which is also fine with me) They won't be learning anything too controversial at 18 months so I'm not really worried about that.
On the other hand, the teachers aren't Jewish (the principal and administration is though), so they're not taught brachos or davening. Then again, they're 18 months old and it's just for 3-4 hours a day...
Also, there was something else in the contract which rubbed me the wrong way and I'm not sure what to make of it, or even if I should take it into consideration when deciding whether or not to send DS: It says in the contract that if you're a member of a conservative synagogue you get a 20% discount on tuition... I'm not really sure what to make of that...
It just seems like an AMAZING program, made just for 18-24 month olds, everything is tiny, even their playground is at their height.
And I do know that some of the kids who go there have questionable last names (I know, dan l'chaf zchus, but you gotta wonder...) Then again, it would only be for one year until he's old enough to go to the frum school...
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Don't worry about that. There may be some affiliation of deal between the Conservative synagogue and the nursery school. Or simply a way to increase affiliation with a synagogue on the one hand, and Jewish education on the other. Its Conservative. You have to expect them to encourage Conservative affilation.
As to last names, they may well accept non-Jews. If that matters to you, ask. I'm not really seeing how it would matter at that age, though.
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If you're ok with the hechsherim, the curriculum, the caregivers, etc. I say go for it.
However, if the only problem is he's bored at home (and not that you need the time to work, or go to class, or just have some time for yourself) don't you think a play date or two or three a week can fix that? It's certainly the cheaper option...
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I would never dream of sending to a conservative school.
Why not to public school? Or Catholic school? As frum people, conservative=traif.
Ideally, the home is best for toddlers.
If not, then of course only a frum school, as brachos and learning Jewish themed things are so important. By the time a child is 4 or 5 they are almost done. Their roots are planted.
If homeschooling would be the norm, I would be thrilled. Ideally I have nothing against it.
Unfortunately, Barbara, its isn't. Until it becomes the norm, it is viewed as being terrible socially.
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If the only reason that you want to send your child out is "boredom," then I suggest looking into other things. Try playing, more floor time. Children's museums, park trips, grocery store trips, play dates, mommy and me, etc. The 18 month old will be bored no longer. Simple arts and crafts...so much to do!
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I would never dream of sending to a conservative school.
Why not to public school? Or Catholic school? As frum people, conservative=traif.
Ideally, the home is best for toddlers.
If not, then of course only a frum school, as brachos and learning Jewish themed things are so important. By the time a child is 4 or 5 they are almost done. Their roots are planted.
If homeschooling would be the norm, I would be thrilled. Ideally I have nothing against it.
Unfortunately, Barbara, its isn't. Until it becomes the norm, it is viewed as being terrible socially. |
The norm is to have an occasional babysitter, to allow your kids to go on playdates, and to send to nursery school a couple of hours a week. But that nauseates you, anyone who does it isn't a parent, their kids are orphans, and you would never allow your kids to marry such a person.
So why are YOUR kids not orphans since you send them to school?
Of course, *I* am nauseated by the comparison of a Conservative nursery school to a Catholic school.
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Why do you care how it's viewed? If you think that's what's best for your kids, you do it. Don't you?
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If homeschooling would be the norm, I would be thrilled. Ideally I have nothing against it.
Unfortunately, Barbara, its isn't. Until it becomes the norm, it is viewed as being terrible socially. |
Why do you care? I'm homeschooling my kids in the heart of Brooklyn. The myth of socialization is such a joke. They learn very well how to share and get along with each other. We go to the park, the museum, and have playdates to meet other children. They order at the bakery and learn how to treat cashiers, mail delivery people, and other delivery guys.
I care more that they grow up healthy mind, body, and soul. There is a major flaw in many chinuch systems, and I will not sacrifice my children to "fit in to some invisible standard." They are so much happier now. I do not know how long I will continue to do this, but wow, we are really happy now! B"H.
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maybe see if you can arrange a rotating playgroup with some other mothers of 18-24 month olds in the neighborhood.
you get a group of 3-4 mothers and kids. and each person takes one day a week or one day every other week and they have all 3 kids over for a playdate for a couple hours. this way all three mothers get a couple days a week where they have 2-3 hours to get some stuff done without the 2 year old (who can be hard to run errands with) and their 2 year old gets some social time and its free- or all it costs is a couple hours of your time later that week.
also they will be in an Orthodox Jewish enviorment.
I personally would only send a child to a conservative school if that was the only only only option and I needed too (meaning I had to work and there was no way to get a babysitter- Jewish or nonJewish) and that would be only with the approval/permission of a Rav.
but if you are comfortable with the idea and really think it is absolutely needed and that there is no other way for him to be kept busy then ok
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| mae1984 wrote: |
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Terrible idea.
18 month olds belong with their mothers. So do 3 year olds, if possible.
There should be a law banning all preschools and all babysitters.
Mothers who have children should be with their kids as much as possible.
I know of plenty of children that stay home with Mommy till they are ready for 1st grade!
There is no reason that children have to be "social" and in a program aside from the fact that Mommy wants to be free. If you have a child, be a Mommy! I am my kids MOM.
amother because I am not interested in all the bashing, so no comments please. |
YOU are not interested in bashing? Thank why are you bashing? Excuse me while I |
I am not bashing. OP asked for opinions about it being a good idea or not. I am entitled to my opinion, just as you are entitled to yours. Having children is a responsibility. Whoever has a child should take care of the child. A child needs its mother for as long as possible. Nothing can replace the love and undivided attention of a devoted mother. I never sent a child to a babysitter, nor did I bring one into my home, when they were under the age of 3. |
And above age 3, you used babysitters? Shame on you - you should be arrested. Don't you know children are a responsibility? You should be by their side every single minute of every single day until their huppah. And even after that. |
Very funny. I did not use babysitters. My husband, parents, parents in law, or my children were the babysitters. In the USA many people believe in and enjoy raising their own children, thank you. |
How did you have time to play and stimulate your kids when you were clearly spending alot of time polishing your halo and applying for mommy sainthood? Just curious... |
I worked with my children/babies right near me. I used cleaning help occasionally, but not babysitters.
I never left cleaning help alone with a child. I enjoyed every minute of caring for my children.
I was doing what my conscience told me to do, I have to answer to myself and to the One above who entrusted me with His precious children. I breastfed until around the age of 2, delivered naturally without epidural, and worked according to my children's schedule, (not working when they were around unless they were infants and/or sleeping). My children are wonderful BH. I have no regrets.
Many mothers claim that they can do the minimum and their kids will turn out fine too.
I wish them all good luck. I hope for the sake of their kids that all will be well. |
Were the older ones with you when you gave birth to the younger ones?
And could you please explain what happened when they started school? You mentioned kindergarten. Why was it suddenly OK for them to be cared for by others when it was time for kindergarten? Why not homeshcool? You don't know who was watching them. |
To the lady I can only assume is all the same "AMother"s above,
I realize that the best feeling in the world is self-righteous indignation, but can I ask you what you are doing here that could possibly be construed as positive constructive advice? So far all I've seen you do is bash the OP and other commentors because they don't follow your definition of what is "correct" parenting.
I am all for natural parenting, and for everyone making their own choices. Can you please tell me how your choice to have natural vaginal non-epidural birthing and extended breastfeeding has to do with whether or not the OP should send her child to a conservative pre-school?
And I'm so glad you are not the one writing the laws! I would surely move away or elect another official!
By the way, I work full-time, I sent my kids to pre-school at age 18 months and now they have a babysitter in the afternoons when they come home from school. Also I occasionally buy take out for Shabbos. While I'm sure that means you'll never allow my children to marry yours, do you really think that makes me, Barbara, or any of the other of working mothers on this site any less of a MOM?
I bless you that you should never, ever, ever, have to go to work to support your precious babies. That you should never know what it is to not have enough food, the eviction notice on the door, the tzedaka organizations don't answer your phone calls anymore. That you never have a child with a chronic or terminal illness. That you should never be staring down a $60000 medical bill. That you never have a husband that runs off with a shiksa to parts unknown and leaves you an agunah. Because there all sorts of reasons why people have to put their child in childcare.
Clearly your life is blessed. I hope you're grateful to Hakadosh Baruch Hu for all that he has given you.
To the OP - can you ask around and see if maybe some other mothers in the community want to start a "mommy and me" round-robin? Where they take turns going to each house with their toddlers? Everyone gets a chance to socialize. Also check with the local Chabad Shluchim - they usually have small pre-schools or if there is enough interest, they'll start one. Hatzlacha!!
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 29 2010, 6:39 pm Post subject: re: Is this a good idea? |
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the amother who never leaves her kids sounds a leeeeeetle like a troll to me.
to the OP. I have a similar issue. I have a 2.5 year old who is going nuts at home. The only Jewish kg in the city closed down a year or two back, but that also started at 3.
I agree it is hard keeping a kid at home, some kids just really want to be with other kids. luckily my 2 year old has older siblings, otherwise it would be much more difficult.
But I don't think it is a terrible thing to keep your baby at home. I don't think the conservative preschool sounds terrible, and if you really had to do it (ie it would have long term negative effects on your child not to go to preschool this year) then I would do it. But I do think it is possible to give your child a good time at home, although it will take effort. a bi weekly playgroup could work well, assuming there are other parents who would be interested in participating. You never know, there might be 10 other mothers in your town with the identical dilemma!
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 29 2010, 7:43 pm Post subject: re: Is this a good idea? |
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| In my city, the yeshiva only starts in K. The only Jewish option for preschool is the JCC. That means frum kids, non-frum kids, non-Jewish kids. Sometimes, you do what you have to do. We don't all live in Brooklyn or Chicago.
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 29 2010, 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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Pfft. YOU make me nauseated gutless amother. I'm happy that you live in a perfect little bubble, the rest of us live in reality.
My kids go to non-Jewish daycare. I actually think it's good for them and the centre is very accommodating. I'd be happy to send to a conservative place at that age.
What does last name have to do with anything btw? Jewish status is through the mother, there may have been an intermarriage that produced a son that has passed on a non-Jewish surname. Or maybe they changed it to fit in more (have those in our family). Or maybe they converted. You can't assume on name.
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