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Motek




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, May 31 2007, 11:56 am
Motek wrote:
Torah life is NOT a democracy. NO, we are not all of equal status.


I'm encountering this secular value among frum Jews on and off the forum. Frum people who balk at the verses in Torah that say Jews are chosen, holy, special ...
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Motek




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, May 15 2008, 2:27 pm
One year later, anything to add?
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flowerpower




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, May 15 2008, 2:28 pm
oy motek! u need something constructive in your day right now lol
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chaylizi




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, May 15 2008, 2:36 pm
the right to life, liberty & the "pursuit of happiness"- I don't think pursuit of happiness is a value of ours as it is meant in the declaration.
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Tamiri




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, May 15 2008, 2:48 pm
Turn the other cheek, don't judge, forgive - I think those are xtian values.

הוכח תוכיח את עמיתך
is Jewish
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In the kitchen




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, May 15 2008, 2:49 pm
Motek, you are right on the spot.
I also have encountered too many yidden who have been indocrinated by non jewish values to be so "politically correct".

It is so frustrating that they arent recognizing the difference between a Yid and a [gentile]...and if you use and example of a bad behavior as a [gentile] they defend the [gentile]! and say "Why do you say a [gentile] did such and such, a yid could have done it too." Oy it hurts. Its so sad and frustrating...Hashem should help all the Yidden have clarity and come closer to Torah and to Hashem
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MOM222




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, May 15 2008, 2:54 pm
Tamiri wrote:
Turn the other cheek, don't judge, forgive - I think those are xtian values.

הוכח תוכיח את עמיתך
is Jewish


Actually don't judge is jewish as it says "Al Tadin es Chavercha ad shtagia lemkomo."
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Tamiri




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, May 15 2008, 2:56 pm
But read
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pinkbubbles




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, May 15 2008, 5:10 pm
Sparkle wrote:
1. Thin is beautiful

2. Life should be easy and perfect.

3. When anything is wrong - therapy is the answer.


Oh. I thought drugs were the answer. And drugs apply to 1 & 2 as well. HMmmmmmm
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