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SRS




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, May 26 2014, 7:55 pm
I just hope the ladies with lots of help or what others might think is excessive amounts of help have a ton saved up for retirement and a solid long term care insurance policy. I know that sounds snarky, but the need for help seems to feed on itself.
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causemommysaid




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, May 26 2014, 7:58 pm
SRS wrote:
I just hope the ladies with lots of help or what others might think is excessive amounts of help have a ton saved up for retirement and a solid long term care insurance policy. I know that sounds snarky, but the need for help seems to feed on itself.


this is snarky. dont judge what other people need until your there.
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SRS




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, May 26 2014, 8:04 pm
causemommysaid wrote:
this is snarky. dont judge what other people need until your there.


Yes, it is definitely snarky. But the need will only become more intense. So be prepared! That is all I am saying. We all add luxuries to our lives as our pay improves and all. It is easier to add than subtract.
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amother


 

Post Mon, May 26 2014, 10:00 pm
The more I reveal the more likely someone will recognize me. But let me just say DD is also very busy helping her siblings when they have babies or someone is sick etc. So I feel selfish asking her to clean my house, because I don't have any babies keeping me up half the night.

For a while she was making grocery orders and making supper almost every night for one sib (who did need it, but I finally put a stop to the use of my account. It's not like we didn't help out with many expenses there either, but enough was enough. So now she is more likely to cook in the sibling's house using the sibling's account, & I cook in my house!) So I do put my foot down sometimes. I just pick my battles.

She does cook for her parents if she is home. Which is not good for us because when I cook it's what's good for us! And she is mostly not interested in using my methods/ingredients etc. Though she does try once in a while.

I personally think it's somewhat of a co-dependent relationship because the more she helps them the less they figure out how to manage. But BEH she will have her own home one day soon & they will have no choice.

BTW there are no younger kids at home to enlist. AND - when they were younger, although I did sometimes make contests & charts, generally I preferred to pay for more help than to have one more thing to enforce. True, it's good to raise children to be responsible, but BH they are. (mostly, anyhow). These are by no means spoiled kids with umpteen sets of clothing and personal maids.

Sheitels? Vacations? Meat? What are those? I mentioned we are helping support our kids. That about sums it up.
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mummiedearest




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, May 26 2014, 10:07 pm
amother wrote:
The more I reveal the more likely someone will recognize me. But let me just say DD is also very busy helping her siblings when they have babies or someone is sick etc. So I feel selfish asking her to clean my house, because I don't have any babies keeping me up half the night.

For a while she was making grocery orders and making supper almost every night for one sib (who did need it, but I finally put a stop to the use of my account. It's not like we didn't help out with many expenses there either, but enough was enough. So now she is more likely to cook in the sibling's house using the sibling's account, & I cook in my house!) So I do put my foot down sometimes. I just pick my battles.

She does cook for her parents if she is home. Which is not good for us because when I cook it's what's good for us! And she is mostly not interested in using my methods/ingredients etc. Though she does try once in a while.

I personally think it's somewhat of a co-dependent relationship because the more she helps them the less they figure out how to manage. But BEH she will have her own home one day soon & they will have no choice.

BTW there are no younger kids at home to enlist. AND - when they were younger, although I did sometimes make contests & charts, generally I preferred to pay for more help than to have one more thing to enforce. True, it's good to raise children to be responsible, but BH they are. (mostly, anyhow). These are by no means spoiled kids with umpteen sets of clothing and personal maids.

Sheitels? Vacations? Meat? What are those? I mentioned we are helping support our kids. That about sums it up.


what you are not teaching your dd is that chessed begins at home. she is not cleaning YOUR house, she is cleaning HER home. she lives in it, she needs to help take care of it. and it's not nice to let her help her sibs out until she has her own home to deal with. she is going to have to figure it out without any help from her siblings. by the time she "retires," they will have kids old enough to help out. and they won't lend her their own kids, because they won't be able to function with the kids home.

you really need to limit the amount of help your dd gives her sibs. if she babysits for them weekly, they should pay her. she cannot help out every time there is trouble in their homes. she'll be run ragged.

spoiled does not mean having a personal maid and a walk-in closet. it means incapable of doing basic things for oneself because one has been trained not to. by that definition, your kids are spoiled.

just to link this back to your original complaint, I still think you should keep the cleaning help to your level of comfort. just enforce some basic rules around your home. it'll be good for everyone.
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amother


 

Post Tue, May 27 2014, 12:33 pm
Wow everyone is being pretty harsh on the teen dd who sounds very sweet that she cooks for her family. Maybe she doesn't clean to moms level of happiness but there is a LOT of cleaning help in the house. The suggestion that the dd should be doing a lot of the cleaning too around the house seems unfair.

I feel like op does sound a bit OCD about cleaning, or having cleaning done for her.
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amother


 

Post Wed, May 28 2014, 12:43 pm
I must defend the teen who really did help in the house more until my married kids were in crisis mode.

Anyhow just had to report that the new help is much better and DH says, oh, fine, I don't mind your having help. What I minded was the lady who you paid for 15 hours when she did 10 hours worth of work. This is 'lemayseh' so that's fine.

It was a dumb thing to get upset about. It wasn't that we weren't communicating, either. It was just that for me it was better to have expensive, slow help than to look for new, and that was what he couldn't grasp.

So all's well that ends well, until DD comes over & starts cooking for Shavuos again.... but I am hoping she will cook chez sibling....and clean up after herself....
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