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Choirmistress




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jun 20 2014, 11:59 am
Who gets the credit for the slow, minor-key, 3/4 tune to "Ki lekach tov" that then repeats those first eight measures with "Eitz Chayim hi" through "me'ushar", the higher part of the melody then sung to "D'racheha" through "k'kedem"? I'm talking about one of the probably two or three most popular tunes sung to Hachnossas Sefer Torah.

Thanks in advance,
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Hashem_Yaazor




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jun 22 2014, 11:32 pm
I have no idea, but now it's stuck in my head Smile
We sang it in our yekkish shul, but I have no idea if it was sung with that tune back in Germany. If I remember, I can ask my father who has quite a bit of knowledge of chazanus in European history.
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Choirmistress




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jun 23 2014, 12:32 pm
Thanks, H"Y.

The reason I'm asking is that the higher part of the melody reminds me of a secular tune and I'm curious whether some sort of connection may be there.

Thanks again.
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imasinger




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jun 23 2014, 3:01 pm
Google is your friend.

While it may be based on something older, the one you are thinking of is attributed toTanchum Portnoy, "Tanchumin", 1975.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4LRKx-5ENJM

HTH!
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Choirmistress




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jun 23 2014, 4:01 pm
Thank you, Singer!

Now I can give you and all the other readers here the details. If you've ever come across "Les Bicyclettes de Belsize", originally from a 1968 short film, you should recognize the major-key part of the melody as the major equivalent of the higher part of Tanchum Portnoy's version!

I am not imagining this! So given the chronology of the two songs, COULD Portnoy have been exposed to the "Bicyclettes" tune?!

Hmmm....

Anyway, thanks a bunch for the link to the YouTube video. We have indeed all been singing it quite astray from the way Tanchum meant it!

Kol Toov,
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