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momtra




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Sep 14 2014, 10:53 pm
My almost 9 year old daughter is such a poor sleeper - I give her melatonin on a very regular basis, but it doesn't always help her fall asleep.
Any other ideas??We've tried sound machines, soothing CD's, lavendar spray...she just has a really hard time falling asleep
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amother


 

Post Sun, Sep 14 2014, 11:15 pm
Did you ever have her checked out by an ENT? My DS had sleeping issues and melatonin didnt help either. Someone recommended we go to an ENT for a different issue. My DS had his enlarged adenoids and tonsils removed. His sleeping problem went away BH.
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imasinger




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Sep 14 2014, 11:16 pm
Any other issues or meds?

How many mg are you giving her?
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amother


 

Post Sun, Sep 14 2014, 11:49 pm
Aren't pills addictive? You eventually need more and more to make you sleepy.
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amother


 

Post Mon, Sep 15 2014, 12:29 am
amother wrote:
Aren't pills addictive? You eventually need more and more to make you sleepy.

No melatonin is not addictive. It does, however, work better for some children than for others.
You're thinking of prescription sleeping pills.
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Mama Bear




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Sep 15 2014, 10:41 am
calcium is often helpful.
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Jeanette




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Sep 15 2014, 10:48 am
momtra wrote:
My almost 9 year old daughter is such a poor sleeper - I give her melatonin on a very regular basis, but it doesn't always help her fall asleep.
Any other ideas??We've tried sound machines, soothing CD's, lavendar spray...she just has a really hard time falling asleep


Once she falls asleep, does she stay asleep, or does she wake up often during the night?
Is she restless at night, tossing and turning?
Is she sleepy during the day?
What time does she go to sleep and what time does she wake up?
What does she do in the bedroom when she's trying to fall asleep?
Does she use any electronics the hour before bedtime?

would it help to make her bedtime an hour later, closer to when she actually falls asleep? You can have her do quiet activities outside the bedroom until she's ready to fall asleep. the bedroom should be used only for sleeping.
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Maya




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Sep 15 2014, 10:49 am
amother wrote:
No melatonin is not addictive. It does, however, work better for some children than for others.
You're thinking of prescription sleeping pills.

I think you're wrong. Friends of mine have spoken of their daughters' classmates coming for sleepovers and bringing alone their melatonin because they can't fall asleep otherwise. We're talking young kids and preteens.
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smss




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Sep 15 2014, 11:36 am
have you tried supplementing her with magnesium? just a thought, I'm totally not a dr...
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Esther23




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Sep 15 2014, 12:24 pm
A calcium and magnesium supplement is supposed to help for that. Calcium relaxes muscles and magnesium helps your body properly absorb and utilize the calcium.
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imasinger




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Sep 15 2014, 12:35 pm
Maya wrote:
I think you're wrong. Friends of mine have spoken of their daughters' classmates coming for sleepovers and bringing alone their melatonin because they can't fall asleep otherwise. We're talking young kids and preteens.


I wonder if that has anything to do with addiction.

Kid normally has problems falling asleep, hence, is taking melatonin. Kid is going into a situation where it will be harder (friends right there, different place to sleep) than usual. Wouldn't any sane mother want to supply the kid's usual bedtime dose? How does that qualify as addiction?
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MiracleMama




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Sep 15 2014, 10:33 pm
My doctor recommended valerian root drops for my 8 yr old. Its' helped somewhat.
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momtra




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Sep 15 2014, 11:07 pm
Thanks all for your replies.
She is tired during the day and she does struggle in school ( is getting necessary remediation, but is still difficult and she is somewhat anxious) - and Im sure each situation - exacerbates the other.
I am giving her 1.5 mg each night. The last two nights have been better - I gave her the melatonin earlier in the evening , at around 6:15 and she was sleeping by about 8. Once she has a few solid nights of sleep ( hopefully!) I'll scale it back to 1 mg and play it by ear. My pediatrician is not so into melatonin, but was not able to give me any suggestions.
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Jeanette




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Sep 15 2014, 11:11 pm
Maybe you should see a sleep specialist if the problem persists.
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Coke Slurpee




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Sep 15 2014, 11:19 pm
She might just need to take more melatoinin to go to sleep. 1.5 mg is not a lot. My son is twelve and takes 9 mg of melatonin.
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abs




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Sep 15 2014, 11:39 pm
Make sure the melatonin has calcium in it, or give it to her with some calcium. It helps absorb it better. Also, I've found that some brands are more effective than others. The Melo-Chew by Maxi Health is one of the best.
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amother


 

Post Mon, Sep 15 2014, 11:59 pm
abs wrote:
Make sure the melatonin has calcium in it, or give it to her with some calcium. It helps absorb it better. Also, I've found that some brands are more effective than others. The Melo-Chew by Maxi Health is one of the best.


That may be true, but anyone doing this should also keep in mind that some people get horrible stomach upset from calcium supplements. So take note if kid is complaining of tummy ache.
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oliveoil




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Sep 16 2014, 8:24 am
Is she getting any physical activity/exertion during the day?
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momtra




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Sep 16 2014, 8:50 am
Jeanette wrote:
Maybe you should see a sleep specialist if the problem persists.


Can anyone recommend a specialist in the NY/NJ area?
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amother


 

Post Tue, Sep 16 2014, 9:01 am
dr. Mayank Shukla

212-661-7077
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