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Amelia Bedelia
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Tue, Nov 25 2014, 10:39 pm
I know the regular rate when you work independently, but what is the pay when you work through an agency?
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amother
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Tue, Nov 25 2014, 11:03 pm
It varies. An agency can take off anywhere from $5-20/hour or even more if they want to. You would have to call different agencies to check each one's rates.
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Amelia Bedelia
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Tue, Nov 25 2014, 11:21 pm
Do you have contact info for agencies?
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amother
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Tue, Nov 25 2014, 11:42 pm
$70/hour. Involved litigation proving that the students can only get what they need at this rate. Not the easiest students but definitely worth it, my regular rate students weren't a piece of cake either and this way I have no self employment tax. There's more paperwork to do for the agency but far less headache than getting money out of the DOE directly.
I've been offered IIRC $25. For large group sessions. I told them not to bother calling me back.
I've accepted $35 when I needed a boost - I may have even taken $30 for a summer case, I don't remember whether it was 30 or 35 but summers are really dry for SETSS so I took it. $35 was when I was just starting out and needed the support of not doing everything on my own. After a few months of that I started taking my own cases and never looked back until I received the "enhanced rate" offer.
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amother
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Tue, Nov 25 2014, 11:50 pm
How in the world do you get this "enhanced rate?"
I am a very experienced high school provider yet I still only get between 40-80 per hour-usually 60 ish.
And I have a hard time filling my day with enough group hours.
Please advise!
I keep thinking that I must look into other places, other options. I love what I do and I love the environment but I'm earning peanuts at the end.
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amother
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Wed, Nov 26 2014, 12:05 am
The parents (via agency in my case) have to take DOE to a hearing with evidence that they have attempted to find a provider for the child and couldn't, but that they have a person who will do it but charges a higher rate. The provider in turn has to actually charge that higher rate, I.e. not also be taking regular cases. So it's a drop of a gamble but because this agent knows what she's doing I felt it was worth waiting and by the beginning of November I had a full caseload.
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2BZ
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Wed, Nov 26 2014, 12:11 am
wow.
That's amazing.
Do you care to share who your agency is?
You must be in Brooklyn, cuz out of Brooklyn its hard to find enough cases in nearby schools.
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amother
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Wed, Nov 26 2014, 12:14 am
2BZ wrote: | wow.
That's amazing.
Do you care to share who your agency is?
You must be in Brooklyn, cuz out of Brooklyn its hard to find enough cases in nearby schools. |
Quite the opposite. Out of Brooklyn, because in Brooklyn there seem to be enough providers to keep the agencies paying low. I don't live in Brooklyn but I'm assuming if it's hard to find cases in schools, it's because the schools are not cooperative - because I have gotten many requests from parents to see kids at home, presumably because they can't get in school because why else would they put themselves through such a hassle.
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2BZ
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Wed, Nov 26 2014, 12:18 am
You got me thinking now-
I never even consider doing p-3 after school hours because the rates are so low and it wouldn't be feasible to find groups.
But if I can contest the pay as you stated then I can charge 70 per hour for one student?
In school hours are tricky in Frumer schools since they usually won't allow pullouts in the mornings.
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amother
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Wed, Nov 26 2014, 12:29 am
I agree, the schedule in frum schools is an issue that I bet could be worked out if people were more willing. Especially since I have seen kids who do nothing but disrupt in the morning but they will not waive school policy. I now work in an MO school that is still a very nice Jewish place where I feel very comfortable but don't have so many hang-ups. PS, I do do kriyah with some kids I see during their Hebrew time. On my session reports I call it "phonemic awareness" or the like.
I suggest you talk to a special ed lawyer about contesting the rates. Really I had this idea myself to just become an agency and do this (because I don't think it pays enough as an individual, but if you were able to apply the same strategy to a number of cases and take a little cut of each still leaving plenty for the provider - 70 is what I get after the agent's cut, I don't even know what she's making off it but I don't care because I'm satisfied enough) but I just don't have the time/energy/managerial skills for this at this time. But someone could be doing this and theoretically making a killing; there are definitely kids who are not getting their services which should be a compelling argument to the DOE.
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SYA
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Wed, Nov 26 2014, 7:34 am
I heard enhanced rate is 100. You do not need to go through an agency. A parent can do it herself if she knows what she's doing or get an advocate for a few hundred dollars to do it.
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