Son ruined neighbors shirt

amother

Burlywood

Tue, Jun 23 2015, 11:03 am

my six year old son pulled a neighbors shirt and ruined it.
I am asking from a halachic viewpoint am I mechuyav to pay?

myself

Tue, Jun 23 2015, 11:06 am

If you're looking for a halachic viewpoint then I have news for you, as of today, imamother has not received semicha.

doctorima

Tue, Jun 23 2015, 11:17 am

I don't know about halacha - ask your Rav - but the mentchlich thing to do if your child ruins or damages something is to offer to pay to fix/replace it.

Chayalle

Tue, Jun 23 2015, 11:57 am

It could be a question of circumstances.

Once, one of my brothers put his hands out in front of his face in self-defense - the other boy was trying to punch him in the face. By doing this, he knocked the other boy's glasses off and they broke.

Yes - the mother tried to demand payment for the glasses - and no, my parents did not pay.

amother

Rose

Tue, Jun 23 2015, 12:03 pm

amother wrote:

my six year old son pulled a neighbors shirt and ruined it.
I am asking from a halachic viewpoint am I mechuyav to pay?

Halacha does not require you to pay. Decency does.

MrsDash

Tue, Jun 23 2015, 12:12 pm

myself wrote:

If you're looking for a halachic viewpoint then I have news for you, as of today, imamother has not received semicha.

There are, however, amothers here who think otherwise.

To OP, I am a sibling of a rabbi, therefore, by association, I advise you to compensate the family for the ruined garb. Thank you, and have a toradika day!

amother

Teal

Tue, Jun 23 2015, 12:21 pm

A neighbors kid once scratched the entire hood of my husbands car. It wasn't a tiny kid was a 8 year old. The parents said they are not mechuyav to pay al
Pi Halacha. Twisted Evil

mfb

Tue, Jun 23 2015, 12:22 pm

it depends, if the other kid was hurting him and this was his self defense I don't think I would pay.

saw50st8

Tue, Jun 23 2015, 12:27 pm

amother wrote:

A neighbors kid once scratched the entire hood of my husbands car. It wasn't a tiny kid was a 8 year old. The parents said they are not mechuyav to pay al
Pi Halacha. Twisted Evil

That's what small claims court is for Twisted Evil

OP, I always try to err on the side of doing my part (in this case paying). However, was the shirt particularly valuable? Are you really strapped for cash? Are they? Did they ask you to pay?

If my kids were playing with someone and a kid ripped their shirt, I would say "Don't worry about it." B"H I can afford to replace a shirt and I don't think it's worth the negative relationship for something so small.

amother

Burlywood

Tue, Jun 23 2015, 7:13 pm

thanks everyone for your replies.
first she tells me I am not mechuyav to pay
then the next day she asks me what am I doing about the shirt.

lizard8

Wed, Jun 24 2015, 8:42 am

Your neighbor cares about it. She told you that according to halacha you don't have to pay, but that doesn't mean she doesn't want you to replace it. I would ask her if she would rather money to replace it or if you should buy the replacement shirt (assuming you can buy it again).

imasoftov

Thu, Jun 25 2015, 5:18 am

myself wrote:

If you're looking for a halachic viewpoint then I have news for you, as of today, imamother has not received semicha.

We should set up a scholarship fund for that.

While we're waiting for the first graduate, these links may be relevant

http://businesshalacha.com/en/.....mages
http://www.torah.org.il/advanc......html
https://www.dailyhalacha.com/D...../2014