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su7kids
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 Fri, Jun 26 2015, 6:58 pm
I am curious as to the accepted etiquette of putting the married woman's name on place cards when there is separate seating.
Emily Post et al only gives answers for when couples are sitting together.
Do you do Mrs Yossi Mazal or do you do Mrs Rochel Mazal and then the table number.
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Barbara
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Sat, Jun 27 2015, 10:01 pm
Traditionally, Mrs. Miriam Weiss was used only if Miriam was divorced. While that is changing, some women may take offense.
Why do you need to highlight the marital status of guests? Miriam Weiss is at table 4, and Yossi Weiss is at table 7.
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kb
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Sat, Jun 27 2015, 11:07 pm
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In my circles at least, Miriam Weiss on a place card would be about 8 years old. Vs Mrs, miss or ms.
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Rubber Ducky
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Sat, Jun 27 2015, 11:29 pm
| Barbara wrote: | Traditionally, Mrs. Miriam Weiss was used only if Miriam was divorced. While that is changing, some women may take offense.
Why do you need to highlight the marital status of guests? Miriam Weiss is at table 4, and Yossi Weiss is at table 7. |
Mrs. Rochel Mazal. Rochel Mazal without the honorific is likely to offend some older women.
Really, ya can't win.
| kb wrote: | | In my circles at least, Miriam Weiss on a place card would be about 8 years old. Vs Mrs, miss or ms. |
Rochel's 8-year-old daughter would be Miss Suri Mazal.
Like I already said, ya can't win — someone's always offended.
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singleagain
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Sun, Jun 28 2015, 12:38 am
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why not find out from others in your community what is commonly done and do it that way?
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agreer
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Sun, Jun 28 2015, 1:23 am
I think it depends... if you know the wife's first name, use it... Mrs. Rochel Mazal
If they responded "Mr and Mrs Y Mazal will happily attend", and you don't know the wife's first name, you can surely write "Mrs Yosef Mazal"
It also should make common sense -- if there are two "Suri Klein"s in your circle of friends, but one is married to Avraham and one is married to Yitzchak, it makes sense to do "Mrs. Avraham Klein" and "Mrs. Yitzchak Klein" to avoid confusion (I actually had this happen at my own wedding)
Honestly, I do not think it is such a big deal.
Also, it makes sense to use the title of Mrs./Ms./Miss because weddings are formal.
Even my 4-year-old niece would have a "Miss Suri Klein" place card.
Good luck...much mazal and brocha on the simcha!
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m in Israel
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Sun, Jun 28 2015, 1:26 am
| Barbara wrote: | Traditionally, Mrs. Miriam Weiss was used only if Miriam was divorced. While that is changing, some women may take offense.
Why do you need to highlight the marital status of guests? Miriam Weiss is at table 4, and Yossi Weiss is at table 7. |
While technically true, in the types of circles where there is separate seating at simchas, it is pretty standard IME to have Mrs. Miriam Weiss on the placecards. Like Rubber Ducky said, everyone gets a title (often even the little single 8 year olds who would get "Miss" -- another slightly offensive title in the broader world that is considered fine in these circles)
As far as OP's question, I have never seen men's first names on the women's cards at separate seating events (Mrs. Yossi Mazel), despite that of course being the more traditionally correct structure.
I have on occasion seen weddings where there was one card for the couple (Mr. and Mrs. Yossi Mazel) with 2 table numbers inside -- one on the mens side and one on the womens. But I think that is definitely NOT standard.
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samantha87
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Sun, Jun 28 2015, 3:00 am
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When did they become Escort Cards? That sounds terribly inappropriate for women in modern English.
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Lady Godiva
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Sun, Jun 28 2015, 3:05 am
| samantha87 wrote: | | When did they become Escort Cards? That sounds terribly inappropriate for women in modern English. |
What she said.
Do they come with a man to-go?
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DrMom
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Sun, Jun 28 2015, 7:32 am
No titles or honorifics for placecards here in Israel, at least not in my circles. "Miriam and Shuky Stern" (for mixed seating), or "Miriam Stern" and "Shuky Stern" for separate seating.
The again, at some weddings there are no placecards at all.
What's with this "Escort card" business? Doesn't sound so kosher...
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