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pickle321
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Sun, Oct 25 2015, 12:22 pm
My chicken soup was accidentally left out Friday night but was put in the fridge shabbos morning. Is it safe to eat or does it have to be dumped?
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etky
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Sun, Oct 25 2015, 12:25 pm
Dump it, for sure
Better safe than sorry....
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Sienna
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Sun, Oct 25 2015, 12:34 pm
Throw it away.
If the food itself (not necessarily the surrounding room temp) is in the danger zone of 40-140 F for 2 hours, it should be considered unsafe even if it smells/looks/tastes fine. Your soup certainly falls in that category: it probably took an hour or so to cool down, then was at room temp overnight.
Anon for privacy as I am a food safety professional.
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pickle321
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Sun, Oct 25 2015, 12:48 pm
Thanks. So sad to throw it out I could really use some warm chicken soup now
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November
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Sun, Oct 25 2015, 2:10 pm
I've had to do that before and it's painful! But overnight really is too long to sit out. Kol hakavod!
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WastingTime
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Sun, Oct 25 2015, 3:12 pm
OMG --is this for real?
I leave my chicken soup almost every Fri night. Either I put it in if I wake up in the middle of the night, or I put it in when I wake up in the morning. Its often still boiling hot when I go to sleep (we have fast meals) so I leave it out. And we have ba"h never gotten sick from it. Never.
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allthingsblue
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Sun, Oct 25 2015, 3:15 pm
4sons wrote: | OMG --is this for real?
I leave my chicken soup almost every Fri night. Either I put it in if I wake up in the middle of the night, or I put it in when I wake up in the morning. Its often still boiling hot when I go to sleep (we have fast meals) so I leave it out. And we have ba"h never gotten sick from it. Never. |
Eeep. Not a healthy practice at all!
I hope you never serve that soup to pregnant women, young children, ill people or elderly people, as they are more likely to get sick from it.
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WastingTime
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Sun, Oct 25 2015, 3:51 pm
allthingsblue wrote: | Eeep. Not a healthy practice at all!
I hope you never serve that soup to pregnant women, young children, ill people or elderly people, as they are more likely to get sick from it. |
I have young children and have been a pregnant woman
Raw chicken I am careful to not leave out but the soup is often boiling hot still. I am not going to stay up for it, and I don't want to put it in the fridge like that (and anyway then it'll warm up the rest of the fridge!). I don't totally ignore food safety rules, but I do think a lot of the are there because they have to be there- meaning who wants to CV be responsible for the chance of someone getting food poising. So the FDA or whoever has lot of rules. For example I see people say you can keep cooked chicken for only 3 days.We eat it for 6. Meatballs 4 days- for sure last longer. I think you also have to factor in how many times things have been in and out of the fridge/reheated when making these calculations. Then again chicken soup is only eaten till Monday or MAYBE Tuesday.
I guess to each his own as long as we all stay healthy.
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etky
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Sun, Oct 25 2015, 4:50 pm
4sons wrote: | I have young children and have been a pregnant woman
Raw chicken I am careful to not leave out but the soup is often boiling hot still. I am not going to stay up for it, and I don't want to put it in the fridge like that (and anyway then it'll warm up the rest of the fridge!). I don't totally ignore food safety rules, but I do think a lot of the are there because they have to be there- meaning who wants to CV be responsible for the chance of someone getting food poising. So the FDA or whoever has lot of rules. For example I see people say you can keep cooked chicken for only 3 days.We eat it for 6. Meatballs 4 days- for sure last longer. I think you also have to factor in how many times things have been in and out of the fridge/reheated when making these calculations. Then again chicken soup is only eaten till Monday or MAYBE Tuesday.
I guess to each his own as long as we all stay healthy. |
I let the soup cool for about an hour and then stick the pot in a stopped sink full of ice water until it is mostly submerged. I usually have to change the water once or twice. The soup is cooled down and ready for the refrigerator after about an hour or so.
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pickle321
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Sun, Oct 25 2015, 4:54 pm
etky wrote: | I let the soup cool for about an hour and then stick the pot in a stopped sink full of ice water until it is mostly submerged. I usually have to change the water once or twice. The soup is cooled down and ready for the refrigerator after about an hour or so. |
That's a smart idea. Will try that.
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WastingTime
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Sun, Oct 25 2015, 5:40 pm
etky wrote: | I let the soup cool for about an hour and then stick the pot in a stopped sink full of ice water until it is mostly submerged. I usually have to change the water once or twice. The soup is cooled down and ready for the refrigerator after about an hour or so. |
Sorry, but after the Shabbos seuda I am lucky if I can get the dishes into the sink and get the table completely cleared. Then I am usually zonked. Definitely no time for fancy home management tricks!
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etky
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Sun, Oct 25 2015, 6:02 pm
I didn't realize you were talking about Friday night. This is what I do on Thursday after I finish cooking the soup and its literally boiling. On Friday night I just transfer whatever remains of the soup to a smaller pot and let it cool until I've finished cleaning up. Then it goes in the fridge. It's never boiling from the platta so whatever's left cools pretty quickly.
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Another mom
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Mon, Oct 26 2015, 12:30 pm
4sons wrote: | OMG --is this for real?
I leave my chicken soup almost every Fri night. Either I put it in if I wake up in the middle of the night, or I put it in when I wake up in the morning. Its often still boiling hot when I go to sleep (we have fast meals) so I leave it out. And we have ba"h never gotten sick from it. Never. |
Just think it's funny to have a "recipe?" option for this post
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thunderstorm
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Mon, Oct 26 2015, 2:59 pm
Reheated soup is a problem to be left out overnight, but I turn my chicken soup off Thursday night about 11 or 12 at night and its still hot at 6 am....we never got sick from that and my guests have never either...my mother did that our whole lives
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