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amother
Ivory
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Thu, Nov 12 2015, 8:07 pm
My 20 year old daughter, who has many questions, is having a hard time locating a program that encourages questions and perhaps caters for baalei tshuva that used to be frum. She's free 8am to 4pm.
Any ideas?
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treestump
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Thu, Nov 12 2015, 9:16 pm
Level Five in Neve was geared for girls like this (and frum girls with questions/who want to explore Judaism more.)
I'm not sure if they have that this year, as Neve overhauled their entire program, but could be they still have it.
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amother
Ivory
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Thu, Nov 12 2015, 9:21 pm
OP here. She tried Neve and it didn't work for her. I'm thinking something more off the beaten path.
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treestump
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Fri, Nov 13 2015, 12:44 am
There really aren't many options, despite the real need for such programs...
This might totally not be for your daughter- but there is a program, I think it's called Ohr Chaya Malchus, a learning center for women. I know two girls from Bais Yaakov backgrounds who had quite a journey to find their own paths who went there, and it was a great match and they really liked it.
Other than that- I'm afraid I don't know of any such places- unfortunately, because there really is a great need for it.
Good luck- I hope your daughter finds a place she's happy in and that's right for her.
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seeker
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Fri, Nov 13 2015, 1:02 am
Maybe Eyaht? In theory it sounds a lot like Neve (learning program for baalos teshuva that also welcomes questioning/returning ffbs. But I don't think with the college program type setup) but in person I think it's a different flavor.
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chani8
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Fri, Nov 13 2015, 1:52 am
Is she israeli? If so, she could check out the various MO learning programs for that age. Perhaps post this question on the main board or the LII.
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momaleh
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Fri, Nov 13 2015, 2:26 am
I don't know if they are right for your daughter, but the other BT seminaries are shearim, which has a large crowd that's a bit older and also some ffbs, and Midreshet Rachel, which I know less about. Worth looking into both. Eyaht also, if that fits her style.
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notshanarishona
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Fri, Nov 13 2015, 3:00 am
I think Shearim is only for older girls.
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momaleh
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Fri, Nov 13 2015, 3:03 am
It's not, I used to teacher there, but it's for the post seminary girl, which your daughter fits.
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November
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Fri, Nov 13 2015, 7:16 am
What about Nishmat and/or Lindenbaum? They have some awesome learning programs for women of all ages.
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amother
Ivory
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Fri, Nov 13 2015, 9:14 am
What's Lindenbaum? That's a new one I haven't heard of.
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kollel wife
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Fri, Nov 13 2015, 11:27 am
I would recommend EYAHT for this very much.
My experience is from many years ago (25 years). I was coming from a modern background, looking to be more frum, but with a lot of questions.
There were definitely girls there who had become less frum. I don't think the term OTD existed really yet.
The Baalei Teshuva were a real inspiration and forced the previously frum, to be honest, and questioning. I remember one girl, woman, really, in particular who was very blunt. For example - if you know xyz is true - how can you do ...
They actually were so excited about the beauty of different parts of Yiddishkeit - it was really eye opening to those who were originally frum - so it wasn't just the staff and material, but the students themselves.
These students had been very exposed, lived quite broad, successful lives.
Learning one and one was also very helpful - especially because of the different levels of text understood by the different types of students.
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finallyamommy
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Sat, Nov 14 2015, 12:58 pm
Oh PLEASE check out Midreshet Rachel. They don't push any hashkafah and they encourage questioning and it's such a warm environment.
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fluffernutter
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Sat, Nov 14 2015, 4:40 pm
Unfortunately, EYAHT closed last year.
I heard there was a place through Aish (I think) called ReJEWvinate - or something along those lines. Some kind of word, with "Jew" in it. Its in Ramat Eshkol. I can try to find out. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
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amother
Chartreuse
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Sat, Nov 14 2015, 4:47 pm
It's called Jewessence
Jewessence.com
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Peanut2
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Sun, Jan 03 2016, 1:12 am
How is she doing?
I strongly recommend Nishmat. Also maybe Matan?
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amother
Khaki
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Sun, Jan 03 2016, 1:20 am
amother wrote: | What's Lindenbaum? That's a new one I haven't heard of. |
Not new at all, it's often called Brovenders for the head of the school. Like some other MO sems, has intense gemara. It's great for a girl who needs intellectual stimulation, but they don't do much warm fuzzy stuff. They have some girls who didn't grow up in such frum homes, but it is not a kiruv school.
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