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chany-frum

Mon, Dec 28 2015, 1:39 pm

About not letting kids talk to the parents after divorce etc,

with Subtitles!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?.....amp;a

youngishbear

Mon, Dec 28 2015, 2:59 pm

It was very moving.

asmileaday

Mon, Dec 28 2015, 3:23 pm

This made me cry. Real raw emotion there.

pause

Mon, Dec 28 2015, 3:30 pm

There is already a thread about this: http://www.imamother.com/forum.....vtuni

asmileaday

Mon, Dec 28 2015, 3:32 pm

I must have missed that thread Smile

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Thanks for sharing!

chany-frum

Mon, Dec 28 2015, 4:13 pm

made me cry .. and realizing how thankful I should be having DH and all kids home with no drama

and hope to be more positive and give much more love

Zehava

Mon, Dec 28 2015, 5:45 pm

Made me Angry. He has a close relative who is currently being barred from seeing her son, and who's son is being incited against her. His family is actively helping the childs father. The same family who was alienated from their own father. Just saying. Look in your own backyard first.

Maya

Mon, Dec 28 2015, 5:50 pm

Zehava wrote:

Perhaps this is his way of making them aware of what they're doing?

chany-frum

Mon, Dec 28 2015, 5:55 pm

Zehava wrote:

are you sure he has any power to change it?

also maybe the mom is OTD ..

Zehava

Mon, Dec 28 2015, 5:55 pm

I doubt it but hey you never know

Maya

Mon, Dec 28 2015, 5:56 pm

chany-frum wrote:

are you sure he has any power to change it?

also maybe the mom is OTD ..

And ?

chany-frum

Mon, Dec 28 2015, 6:43 pm

and I can totally understand if a father is afraid if his child will remain frum , not to allow seeing the mother,

after all when they got married was to bring up frum Jewish children

You can't change the rules in the middle of the game

sourstix

Mon, Dec 28 2015, 6:48 pm

totally agree chany

youngishbear

Mon, Dec 28 2015, 6:55 pm

chany-frum wrote:

Disagree. Unfortunately in religious battles between the parents the children are always the korbonos, whether they stay together or split up. No one has control over their children's religiosity, and inciting against one parent over religious issues may backfire badly later and then the child is left without parents and without religion.

youngishbear

Mon, Dec 28 2015, 6:58 pm

chany-frum wrote:

If the only way to get children to be religious is to make them hate a parent, they may end up hating both Hashem and the parent, if not both parents.

sourstix

Mon, Dec 28 2015, 7:00 pm

youngish bear well said. I wonder if these parents even think of this at all. or they are so busy fighting.

chany-frum

Mon, Dec 28 2015, 7:10 pm

totally agree if its just about who wins , and fighting , the children will for sure be hurt

the painful question is if the mom is OTD and really wants to make the kids not religious !

what about the pain of the father & grandparents ,

we all know that having G-d forbid kids OTD is the worst think that can happen to a frum Jewish person

so what about his pain ???????

and what about the fact the she "the mom" is the one that changed the rules in the middle of the game

please address my point ,

pause

Mon, Dec 28 2015, 7:15 pm

chany-frum wrote:

are you sure he has any power to change it?

also maybe the mom is OTD ..

If you are familiar with Yoely's background, they were saying bad things about his mother too. That's so beyond the point that he was trying to make which is that a child needs both his parents, that's all. He wasn't giving any directives here. Just saying from his own experience that depriving a child from parents is cruel.

Zehava

Mon, Dec 28 2015, 7:16 pm

Life is not a game. Blood is blood. It seems this is exactly the point yoely lebowits was trying to make.

happyfaces

Mon, Dec 28 2015, 8:11 pm

Wow so powerful...and painful!

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