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amother
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Wed, Jul 27 2016, 10:28 pm
Not a SINGLE mention of support for Israel in ALL the Democratic National Convention's speeches, so far, and were three days in!
This cant be a mistake.
At the Republican National Convention, support for Israel was mentioned and stressed by every single speaker.
Im not thrilled with Trump, but the Democratic Party's not mentioning support for Israel scares me.
This cant be a mistake.
This cant be an oversight.
This doesnt feel right, no matter how much we try to excuse it away!
Try to excuse it away, my friends.
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FranticFrummie
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Wed, Jul 27 2016, 10:34 pm
#Jewish Lives Don't Matter
Didn't you notice all the Palestinian flags in attendance?
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gp2.0
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Wed, Jul 27 2016, 10:48 pm
Because no matter what anyone does or doesn't say in their fancy speeches, Israel, being the only democratic country in the Middle East, is such a valuable ally to the US that the US will continue pumping hundreds of billions of dollars in aid to Israel no matter who the president is.
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amother
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Wed, Jul 27 2016, 10:51 pm
gp2.0 wrote: | Because no matter what anyone does or doesn't say in their fancy speeches, Israel, being the only democratic country in the Middle East, is such a valuable ally to the US that the US will continue pumping hundreds of billions of dollars in aid to Israel no matter who the president is. |
And you know that how? Have you heard the voice of G-d lately? Democrats might help Israel to some degree, but it doesnt look like it will be to a healthy degree.
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gp2.0
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Wed, Jul 27 2016, 10:54 pm
amother wrote: | And you know that how? Have you heard the voice of G-d lately? Democrats might help Israel to some degree, but it doesnt look like it will be to a healthy degree. |
History speaks for itself.
Logic is the cure to hysteria.
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amother
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Wed, Jul 27 2016, 10:58 pm
gp2.0 wrote: | History speaks for itself.
Logic is the cure to hysteria. |
Thats what our ancestors said pre-WWII.
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amother
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Wed, Jul 27 2016, 11:05 pm
Don't worry, Trump will save us. Along with his pal Putin.
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amother
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Wed, Jul 27 2016, 11:08 pm
amother wrote: | Thats what our ancestors said pre-WWII. |
Well, personally I think that if anyone would be the one to catapult us into WWIII, that would be Trump.
And yes, it is worrying.
But I think the alternative - a grown jerk with the temperament of an explosive toddler, who is insulting and antagonizing both our allies and enemies with the grace of a hippopotamus, is even more worrying.
It's a choice between bad and worse.
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amother
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Wed, Jul 27 2016, 11:09 pm
amother wrote: | Don't worry, Trump will save us. Along with his pal Putin. |
Jews, lets fantasize we're better off with Clinton, and we will never know.
Every Republican who spoke, spoke of the importance of support for Israel.
Not one Democrat said that in three nights!
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amother
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Wed, Jul 27 2016, 11:16 pm
amother wrote: | Jews, lets fantasize we're better off with Clinton, and we will never know.
Every Republican who spoke, spoke of the importance of support for Israel.
Not one Democrat said that in three nights! |
And the 'Republican' who is running for president spoke, many, many times, with hateful messages that awoke sleeping bears and brought white supremacist anti-Israel, anti Semites out of their caves and into the open.
He uses a slogan which was used during WWII to deny entry to thousands of desperate Jews - America First.
Did you see the comments in the live feed of the Republican convention? Press H for Hitler, Let's kill the Jews, etc. These are Trump supporters!!
Once hate is unleashed, it doesn't discriminate. Hate breeds hate. You think you're safe because the hate is now directed at Hispanics and Muslims? Jews have always been a soft target and vulnerable to hate.
Once we resort to using scare tactics, let me tell you, if you're shaking from Clinton, you should be seizing from Trump.
Trump's supporters can unleash anti-semitism in the most vicious, frightening way possible.
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amother
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Wed, Jul 27 2016, 11:19 pm
amother wrote: | Jews, lets fantasize we're better off with Clinton, and we will never know.
Every Republican who spoke, spoke of the importance of support for Israel.
Not one Democrat said that in three nights! |
Keep in mind that many republicans don't fully support trump either. In fact many are purposely keeping far away to avoid being contaminated by him in their own reelection bids. Keep voting republican, just don't let trump anywhere near the White House.
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amother
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Wed, Jul 27 2016, 11:22 pm
amother wrote: | And the 'Republican' who is running for president spoke, many, many times, with hateful messages that awoke sleeping bears and brought white supremacist anti-Israel, anti Semites out of their caves and into the open.
He uses a slogan which was used during WWII to deny entry to thousands of desperate Jews - America First.
Did you see the comments in the live feed of the Republican convention? Press H for Hitler, Let's kill the Jews, etc. These are Trump supporters!!
Once hate is unleashed, it doesn't discriminate. Hate breeds hate. You think you're safe because the hate is now directed at Spics and Muslims? Jews have always been a soft target and vulnerable to hate.
Once we resort to using scare tactics, let me tell you, if you're shaking from Clinton, you should be seizing from Trump.
Trump's supporters can unleash anti-semitism in the most vicious, frightening way possible. |
Seizing? Ok. Not ONE tiny mention of the importance of support of Israel in three days of speeches. And Palestinian flags waved, with chants of Intifada.
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Wed, Jul 27 2016, 11:26 pm
amother wrote: | Seizing? Ok. Not ONE tiny mention of the importance of support of Israel in three days of speeches. And Palestinian flags waved, with chants of Intifada. | .
The chants of intifada were coming from anti-Hillary protesters.
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gp2.0
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Wed, Jul 27 2016, 11:28 pm
amother wrote: | Thats what our ancestors said pre-WWII. |
Wow, our ancestors were given hundreds of billions of dollars by the German government for 50 years before WWII? Source, please.
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amother
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Wed, Jul 27 2016, 11:37 pm
gp2.0 wrote: | Wow, our ancestors were given hundreds of billions of dollars by the German government for 50 years before WWII? Source, please. |
Oh my! And thats a guarantee of future support?
Throughout our history as a Jewish nation, multiple times, over and over, weve been persecuted by governments that turned on us, despite being friendly previously.
We are reminded of this many times a year by fasts and celebrations, fasts memorializing enemies death and destruction, holidays memorializing victory over the enemies.
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DrMom
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Wed, Jul 27 2016, 11:38 pm
It's certainly no secret that the Democratic Party has been moving away from Israel at a rapid pace these past 8 years.
That American Jews continue to vote Democrat shows just how little they value the lives of other Jews. Thank G-d for evangelicals.
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PAMOM
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Wed, Jul 27 2016, 11:40 pm
I saw the protesters with Palestinian flags. They were protesting the Democratic party's support of Israel.
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amother
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Thu, Jul 28 2016, 12:28 am
PAMOM wrote: | I saw the protesters with Palestinian flags. They were protesting the Democratic party's support of Israel. |
That might be the case, but many Palestinīan flags were seen INSIDE the DNC hall.
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gp2.0
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Thu, Jul 28 2016, 12:29 am
amother wrote: | Oh my! And thats a guarantee of future support?
Throughout our history as a Jewish nation, multiple times, over and over, weve been persecuted by governments that turned on us, despite being friendly previously.
We are reminded of this many times a year by fasts and celebrations, fasts memorializing enemies death and destruction, holidays memorializing victory over the enemies. |
That's true. So then you apply logic. What's in it for the US? What does America gain by supporting Israel?
And then you draw some conclusions - would the US give up all those advantages? Why on earth would they want to?
Thus you come to a conclusion based not on a sense of comfort and wellbeing or a sense of impending doom. A conclusion based not on blind naivete or blazing indignity. A conclusion based not on denial or on exaggeration.
A conclusion based on the cold hard facts.
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