Which kind of job is well paying??

cnc

Tue, Nov 22 2016, 10:33 am

watergirl wrote:

OP, this is going to be an unpopular post.
You want a job thats family friendly, less hours than what you have now (please share what that is), and you have no degree yet. Its great that you want to learn! I went back to finish my degree and after 2 years of college (night/online), 3/4 courses a semester, while working a full time and sunday job, I got the degree and pay raise. Its very doable.

But you want to have your cake and eat it too it seems. You want a job thats acceptable in the chassidish circles. CPA is not one of those. You want to earn a lot per hour, which will require education and planning typically. Forgive me, but when someone suggested CPA, you asked what the salary is. If you are seriously looking for a career, start Googling. Do research. Nothing will come without you doing your part. Speak with a career counselor to see whats an optiom for you. Go to a job fair - there are often frum ones in NY. Speak to real people in the real world who are in your shoes.

Other than opening a gan in your home, jobs that pay $35/hour with fewer hours take more than a course or two. Schooling is a real time commitment. Its worth it! But keep in mind that you may have to broaden what you are willing to do as a job and toss community standards aside.

I don't think you're correct. CPA certainly is an accepted job in chassidish circles. I know quite a few women that got their degree from Touro.

And the "heimishe programs" Sara Schneirer etc have a CPA track for married women.

frankie

Tue, Nov 22 2016, 10:34 am

causemommysaid wrote:

starting salaries in NY for a CPA are probably in the mid 60s plus benefits.

Starting salary in big 4 accounting firms for a CPA is 61 in the higher paid firms, in NY, in higher paid groups, and down from that. In the smaller places where you will actually have work life balance, we are talking way lower.

gold21

Tue, Nov 22 2016, 10:45 am

amother wrote:

I'm currently working in an office doing secretarial work.. What's normal to get paid in boro park per hour, I'm working 6 hours a day and work every day of the week besides sunday

It's gonna be hard to support a family on secretarial work, if that is your question.

nicole81

Tue, Nov 22 2016, 11:16 am

Can you tutor within a more modern community? I was making $40/hr with no degree tutoring math 10 years ago. More recently, a few years ago with education degrees, I was making $80-90/hr. All you need are a handful of regular clients and you're set.

As another possible option, I'm a big proponent of working in the public school system. It's a lot of work, but it's a great long term plan. Once your kids are all in school, the hours will allow you to be home with them in the afternoon/early evening. You get tons of days off, all of pesach off, and your entire summer off. It also affords your family medical, dental, rx, and optical insurance, and you will have a pension so you're not struggling to pay your bills once you retire. The salary is also very decent. The more college credits you earn, the more you make, so you could conceivably be making 74k with 5 years of experience, over 90k 8 years in, and of course it only goes up from there and that's guaranteed without even moving up the career ladder.

Maybe this is for you, but more likely not. However, I do think that you need to consider long term planning. You will not be in the same position now as in 10 years, and it's not a good idea to narrow your career options based on your life at this very moment. I agree that if you want to earn a decent amount and set yourself up long term, it will take a time commitment up front that won't necessarily allow for the amount of flexibility you would like at the moment. But high pay with flexible hours doesn't come easily and without hard work for most.

watergirl

Tue, Nov 22 2016, 11:19 am

frankie wrote:

She wants to work fewer than 6 hours a day. Is that even an option?

gp2.0

Tue, Nov 22 2016, 11:20 am

amother wrote:

I'm currently working in an office doing secretarial work.. What's normal to get paid in boro park per hour, I'm working 6 hours a day and work every day of the week besides sunday

The range is $12/hr to $25/hr for regular secretarial work. (I've only heard about the $25, I never personally encountered it.) Some offices may pay more for specialized work, like graphic design or accounting. But that's the average.

If you're making at the top end of that spectrum, $20/hr and up, keep your job and supplement your income with a second job. You can babysit overnight, run a Sunday fun group, freelance whatever skills you have and increase your income that way. If you haven't gotten a raise in awhile you can ask for a raise. You can also ask if your employer will cover part of your expenses as a tax-deductible business expense, such as babysitting for your baby if that's relevant.

Also, your husband can get a job while still keeping his kollel schedule. There are after-hours jobs like making early morning deliveries or making a private paid arrangement to drop someone off or pick someone up every day. He won't earn much but it will give you that income boost.

gp2.0

Tue, Nov 22 2016, 11:28 am

Watergirl I don't disagree with you that OP needs to do more research but I think you are being unnecessarily harsh. Google can be overwhelming if you don't know what questions to ask, and sometimes even if you do.

OP may have no idea who to ask in real life or that resources exist to provide her with information. Imamother is also a resource to provide OP with information. She is asking questions which is a solid first step before making decisions.

Sometimes we are annoyed at totally unrelated things and it comes across in written posts. I hope you are having a really great day and if you aren't, hugs. 🤗

sky

Tue, Nov 22 2016, 11:30 am

watergirl wrote:

Are you willing to research yourself? Its almost strange that you seem to want it all easy. And you are goving zero information. How long have you been with the company, is it a Jewish company, what kind of experience do you have otherwise.

You are correct you need more information. But to be fair, I think jobs in BP work differently than jobs anywhere else.

cnc

Tue, Nov 22 2016, 11:31 am

gp2.0 wrote:

About your last paragraph- I know someone in Kollel that does early morning deliveries for a bakery (for about 2 hours) and makes very very nice money.

amother

Mauve

Tue, Nov 22 2016, 11:32 am

nicole81 wrote:

In Lakewood people will pay top dollar for a kriah or reading specialist. You can make very good money in the yeshivish community if you are good.

amother

Magenta

Tue, Nov 22 2016, 11:46 am

lora wrote:

well if its "You" a therapist is a well paying job or life coach, nutritionist?

I'm not sure exactly what this post means, but registered dietitians are among the lowest-paid college-educated health care providers, and getting an internship is extremely competitive. In NJ, with 20 years experience, I don't make over $35/hour. There is a lot of schooling with an uncertain and low-paying future, unless you are extremely entrepreneurial or interested in foodservice management (higher level of financial responsibility usually means higher pay).

essie14

Tue, Nov 22 2016, 11:54 am

causemommysaid wrote:

starting salaries in NY for a CPA are probably in the mid 60s plus benefits.

Right...working very long hours in Manhattan.
Not working from home and not in a position with work/life balance

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gold21

Tue, Nov 22 2016, 12:14 pm

gp2.0 wrote:

Questions are good, expectations less so.

I "liked" watergirl's post and I agree with her that OP does have some unrealistic expectations.

amother

Cobalt

Tue, Nov 22 2016, 12:26 pm

where I live (in europe) I got my bac-degree in education fairly easily (took me 3 years, no costs, average difficulty) and I work part time for a private school. I also have a degree in tutoring diyslexic adults /children. at home I tutor and get approx 30 dollars per 50 minutes session.

im very happy, the only problem is, that students usually want to get tutored after school or during weekends ie. when my own children are out of playgroup/school- so u need a babysitter or a relative to throw an eye on them (unless they are old enough to play by them selves...).

I also offer groups for children who need more language skills (vocabulary aquisition or such...) - these courses cost approx 20 dollars/session, but parents book a block of 10 times.

many ppl are willing to pay for quality lessons and b``H we see beautiful results. I dont have to spend money on advertisments, becuase ppl recommend me and I dont need to rent an office, we adjusted one of our rooms (it used to be an office, now it still serves us as an office, but looks more like a cosy classroom ). Reconstruction didnt cost us much-

all in all I can really recommend it.

SuperWify

Tue, Nov 22 2016, 12:47 pm

amother wrote:

I also recommend tutoring strongly. I don't have a degree but I have 2.5 years of exp tutoring 6th-8th graders and prepearing girls for HS. I started @ $30 an hour and now I can make $40. Find a specific age you feel comfortable with and go for it. You can then cut your office hours and do this at night or something. that's what I am planning to do now (even though I get a nice per hour salary for a secretary- in the 20's- but it's nothing compared to 40 an hour cash....)

amother

Gray

Tue, Nov 22 2016, 1:09 pm

cnc wrote:

I would actually say that for a woman in her position CPA makes a lot more sense than the other jobs listed here.

CPA has lots of flexibility- yes there is one crazy season that coincides with pesach but it's still very doable if you plan in advance.

Nursing is lots of schooling for an NP and it's pretty difficult to find flexible jobs.

There are an over abundance of therapists - and if you want to be very flexible with your hours you'll probably have even a lesser chance of getting cases. The pay is not at all that great after taxes and agency cuts.

(It also depends what type of brain she has- some would say OT school is 1000 times harder than accounting !)

My information above is all assuming that the OP lives in the tristate area... if she doesn't , pay and job availability may be different than what I posted .

There's one very crazy season (April 15), and two lesser but still difficult seasons, approaching August 15 and again October 15. In the month approaching April 15, many firm require work 6 days a week, 10 to 12 hours a day (leaving early on Friday if religious, but they won't like it much). October 15 is just a tad lower than that.

amother

Pumpkin

Tue, Nov 22 2016, 5:55 pm

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Provide a service, open your own business, and get paid per job so that it ends up more than 35/hr.

Teaching high school can also get you more than that for fewer hours out of the house, but more hours home. You can get 150/day for 3 hours in school.

amother

Orchid

Tue, Nov 22 2016, 10:11 pm

amother wrote:

As in more than $35 an hour.. Most offices don't pay that well. Or at least I think so. Any suggestions? I'm willing to learn something new. No degree so far. What courses or degrees are there to take for a well paying job?

I am a freelance bookkeeper charging by the hour. I set my own hours and rates depending on the client/job. Since I am taking a little break now, I only have one client who pays $35/hr.

I'm sure I could increase my rates if I would get a CPA license but that won't be happening anytime soon.

Hope I was being helpful.