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Fri, Dec 30 2016, 10:42 am
naturalmom5 wrote: | Why is there a sign in bmg , signed by all the Roshei Y, telling everyone not to go... |
Do to this my DH didn't feel it was right to go
And no, the letter said bec of "chukas hagoy" which I think bec it was done like a broadway (the theater, the actors ect.)
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amother
Lemon
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Fri, Dec 30 2016, 10:44 am
amother wrote: | I hope you are being sarcastic. When will this obsession with banning things that are totally ok stop?? |
I was being factual, not judgemental in either direction.
But honestly, having been there myself, and being very anti-banning, I'm not sure I am happy about heimish entertainment going in this direction.
I can get this from Hollywood and Broadway. When I watch a heimish production, I want to see that certain shmaltzy flavor. This was almost no different than Broadway. The seperate seating was not enforced, either.
BTW I am no great fan of the women's plays that perform random secular stories, either. Not that they should be banned!!! They are a wonderful way to use talent and a nice safe entertaining way to spend an evening.
But something happened to heimish entertainment when Cinderella became a star.
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cnc
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Fri, Dec 30 2016, 1:07 pm
amother wrote: | Not in Lakewood. |
I'm being scarcastic in case it wasn't obvious.
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amother
Ruby
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Sun, Jan 01 2017, 9:25 am
I'm a BT who has gone to Broadway plays, so maybe my expectations were high. To me, the play was long, boring, not believable and amateurish. The violence alone means I will never bring my children to such a play if they have them in the future.
The script was an attempted marriage between a cheap spy novel and a holocaust story. And it was a bad marriage. E.g. It had American soldiers jumping into Warsaw at the height of Nazi power to try to "extract" a Jewish boy (did they even have helicopters in WWII?).
The whole concept was so unrealistic that I couldn't get past it. Nazis having press conferences in Poland attended by Soviet and American reporters?! And the Nazis knowingly allow a Jew to have a restaurant in Polish Warsaw (because he makes good "schnitzel") as they are sending hundreds of thousands of Jews to the gas chambers?! Can someone please introduce the playwright to history?
I think my biggest problem was something someone said earlier. It depended on heavy handed melodrama to evoke emotions. This was not a subtle, intelligent script. The main character, Zusman, was not a very sympathetic character either; it was hard to sympathize with him. I thought it might just be me, but I overheard some teenage girls saying the same thing.
I know that some people thought it was great. And I'm sorry if I have offended you by telling you my true feelings; I mean nothing personal. Maybe a person coming from a different background would feel differently. But as for me I would certainly never want my children to see such a play, and I myself would never go again.
By the way, I love the Zman as a magazine.
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amother
Khaki
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Sun, Jan 01 2017, 12:26 pm
amother wrote: | I'm a BT who has gone to Broadway plays, so maybe my expectations were high. To me, the play was long, boring, not believable and amateurish. The violence alone means I will never bring my children to such a play if they have them in the future.
The script was an attempted marriage between a cheap spy novel and a holocaust story. And it was a bad marriage. E.g. It had American soldiers jumping into Warsaw at the height of Nazi power to try to "extract" a Jewish boy (did they even have helicopters in WWII?).
The whole concept was so unrealistic that I couldn't get past it. Nazis having press conferences in Poland attended by Soviet and American reporters?! And the Nazis knowingly allow a Jew to have a restaurant in Polish Warsaw (because he makes good "schnitzel") as they are sending hundreds of thousands of Jews to the gas chambers?! Can someone please introduce the author to history?
I think my biggest problem was something someone said earlier. It depended on heavy handed melodrama to evoke emotions. This was a not subtle, intelligent script. The main character, Zusman, was not a very sympathetic character; it was hard to sympathize with him. I thought it might just be me, but I overheard some teenage girls saying the same thing.
I know that some people thought it was great. And I'm sorry if I have defended you by telling you my true feelings; I mean nothing personal. Maybe a person coming from a different background would feel differently. But as for me I would certainly never want my children to see such a play, and I myself would never go again.
By the way, I love the Zman as a magazine. |
They based it on a frum novel called Complex Mission, which is based on a Yiddish novel. I was surprised because the novel had many plot holes, and I was expecting a more sophisticated screenplay from the Zman...
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amother
Ruby
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Sun, Jan 01 2017, 2:45 pm
naturalmom5 wrote: | Why is there a sign in bmg , signed by all the Roshei Y, telling everyone not to go... |
I see in the newest issue of the magazine they no longer have the rabbi as their advisor. His name isn't there.
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Iymnok
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Sun, Jan 01 2017, 2:59 pm
amother wrote: | I see in the newest issue of the magazine they no longer have the rabbi as their advisor. His name isn't there. |
Really?
He's one of the reasons I bought the magazine. If he's not there, where will they take it? I like my leisure literature presifted.
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amother
Ruby
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Sun, Jan 01 2017, 9:31 pm
amother wrote: | They based it on a frum novel called Complex Mission, which is based on a Yiddish novel. I was surprised because the novel had many plot holes, and I was expecting a more sophisticated screenplay from the Zman... |
So was I.
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cnc
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Sun, Jan 01 2017, 9:40 pm
amother wrote: | I see in the newest issue of the magazine they no longer have the rabbi as their advisor. His name isn't there. |
Who was their rabbinical advisor?
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amother
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Mon, Jan 02 2017, 5:35 pm
cnc wrote: | Who was their rabbinical advisor? |
Bump
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amother
Orchid
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Mon, Jan 02 2017, 5:41 pm
It was Rabbi Yosef Viener, I think from Monsey
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amother
Ruby
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Mon, Jan 02 2017, 6:07 pm
Quote: | As far as sold out, I wouldn't know if it was sold out but the place was pretty much full with a few empty seats here and there |
I don't know when you went, but when I went there were a lot of empty seats. More empty than full.
Also, I would say the vast vast majority were chassidim. I'm not being judgmental. Just an observation. I saw very few yeshivish or litvish or modern o.
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amother
Ruby
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Mon, Jan 02 2017, 6:10 pm
Iymnok wrote: | Really?
He's one of the reasons I bought the magazine. If he's not there, where will they take it? I like my leisure literature presifted. |
My guess is that he's no longer there because of the play.
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amother
Seafoam
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Sat, Jan 07 2017, 8:03 pm
In a discussion about this today, someone said that in the Chassidishe world they've been putting on professional plays for some time. I haven't seen any advertised, but then, I don't read Yiddish papers.
Can anyone confirm?
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Amelia Bedelia
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Sat, Jan 07 2017, 8:32 pm
amother wrote: | In a discussion about this today, someone said that in the Chassidishe world they've been putting on professional plays for some time. I haven't seen any advertised, but then, I don't read Yiddish papers.
Can anyone confirm? |
They're referring to the "Interin" plays, run by Rabbi Eliezer Neuhaus, owner of the Weekly Link publication.
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youngishbear
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Sat, Jan 07 2017, 8:48 pm
amother wrote: | In a discussion about this today, someone said that in the Chassidishe world they've been putting on professional plays for some time. I haven't seen any advertised, but then, I don't read Yiddish papers.
Can anyone confirm? |
For men and boys only
In Yiddish
Heimish actors
And as far as I know every play features someone holding on to their emunah or davening or kiddush Hashem or all of the above.
I can't find the patience to watch/listen through the entire thing but I'm sure there are tons of historical inaccuracies and plot holes.
And p.s. I believe some groups have banned them, too.
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amother
Seafoam
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Sat, Jan 07 2017, 9:42 pm
Quote: | I can't find the patience to watch/listen through the entire thing but I'm sure there are tons of historical inaccuracies and plot holes. |
Can you find them on-line? I'd be curious to see...
Are they really professionally done? Sound effects? Guns etc? (Not that I am looking for that, just curious if they have the same elements of this Zman play...)
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Amelia Bedelia
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Sat, Jan 07 2017, 10:24 pm
amother wrote: | Quote: | I can't find the patience to watch/listen through the entire thing but I'm sure there are tons of historical inaccuracies and plot holes. |
Can you find them on-line? I'd be curious to see...
Are they really professionally done? Sound effects? Guns etc? (Not that I am looking for that, just curious if they have the same elements of this Zman play...) |
Yiddishplays.com
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