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amother
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Wed, Feb 15 2017, 1:32 pm
my child might have dyslexia. we were told to have an educational and psychological evaluation (although we have had that done already at other times and they were non conclusive).
I was also told to go to a neurodevelopmental specialist who will also do an assessment but that it is not the same as the educational and psychological eval.
Do I need to go through all this testing?? Why not one or the other?
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amother
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Wed, Feb 15 2017, 4:52 pm
bump
if anyone has any information on this ....
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amother
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Wed, Feb 15 2017, 6:20 pm
Why don't you check out Torah4children.com/evaluation
There's a free online Kriah evaluation that tests for dyslexia in Kriah. The evaluation was created by professionals specializing in reading difficulties.
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amother
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Wed, Feb 15 2017, 6:28 pm
amother wrote: | Why don't you check out Torah4children.com/evaluation
There's a free online Kriah evaluation that tests for dyslexia in Kriah. The evaluation was created by professionals specializing in reading difficulties. |
This will not prove it's dyslexia
Only an MD can diagnose dyslexia
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Yael3
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Wed, Feb 15 2017, 6:49 pm
A psychologist can make this diagnosis. It would require a full battery, meaning probably 3-4 sessions, a few hours each time. Several assessments will be done that will test executive functioning, processing speed, and many other things.
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finprof
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Wed, Feb 15 2017, 7:56 pm
He or she needs a phychoeducational evaluation. Private ones cost about $1000 but public schools do them for free with a teacher recommendation. PM me to discuss: I'm am severely dyslexic and couldn't read till I was 11 so I have tons of experience with these tests... Btw even if he or she it's dyslexic it's not an "academic death sentence" it just takes some extra time and adjustment...in my case longer than others but I now have a PhD so anything is possible!
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amother
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Wed, Feb 15 2017, 8:27 pm
amother wrote: | Why don't you check out Torah4children.com/evaluation
There's a free online Kriah evaluation that tests for dyslexia in Kriah. The evaluation was created by professionals specializing in reading difficulties. |
for some reason Hebrew kriah is easier for my child to read than English is - perhaps because Hebrew is more phonetic? My child's Hebrew reading is okay, on the weaker side but English is way off the charts and writing is not legible. So, I'm not sure that such an evaluation would be able to prove anything in this case.
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amother
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Wed, Feb 15 2017, 8:29 pm
Yael3 wrote: | A psychologist can make this diagnosis. It would require a full battery, meaning probably 3-4 sessions, a few hours each time. Several assessments will be done that will test executive functioning, processing speed, and many other things. |
so then a psychological eval is necessary not an educational eval - right?
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amother
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Wed, Feb 15 2017, 8:31 pm
finprof wrote: | He or she needs a phychoeducational evaluation. Private ones cost about $1000 but public schools do them for free with a teacher recommendation. PM me to discuss: I'm am severely dyslexic and couldn't read till I was 11 so I have tons of experience with these tests... Btw even if he or she it's dyslexic it's not an "academic death sentence" it just takes some extra time and adjustment...in my case longer than others but I now have a PhD so anything is possible! |
what is a phycoeducational eval??
It sounds like you got the help you needed to succeed in life ..that is great! Were you first diagnosed at 11? Are you able to write well?
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finprof
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Wed, Feb 15 2017, 8:37 pm
You go to a PsyD for the diagnosis not an MD. The terms phychoeducational and educational are often used interchangeably depending on the circumstance. Inn public school the analysis starts with an educational eval where someone observes you in a classroom setting then moves on to formal tests if necessary this the 2 names. Does that make sense?
To your second question: I was diagnosed at 8 but it was the 1980s...they can" fix us " much faster now.
I can write will enough I suppose, Ive published a few academic papers (totally typical in my field) ... My spelling still sucks but there is always spell check! Also my mom still edits my papers :/
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amother
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Wed, Feb 15 2017, 8:55 pm
amother wrote: | This will not prove it's dyslexia
Only an MD can diagnose dyslexia |
It is true that only a neurologist doing brain imaging can diagnose dyslexia conclusively.
However, the online kriah evaluation is a very informative tool that does a good job of zoning in on any kriah weaknesses, and giving insight to the nature and cause of the kriah weaknesses it detects.
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amother
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Wed, Feb 15 2017, 10:05 pm
Not all school districts diagnose when they do educational evals. NYC board of ed will not diagnose dyslexia, ADHD etc.
Best to have a neuropsychological evaluation. In depth, expensive, but will diagnose and give the most info.
where are you located op?
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amother
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Wed, Feb 15 2017, 10:17 pm
amother wrote: | Not all school districts diagnose when they do educational evals. NYC board of ed will not diagnose dyslexia, ADHD etc.
Best to have a neuropsychological evaluation. In depth, expensive, but will diagnose and give the most info.
where are you located op? |
I'm in NJ. I was told there was no specific test for dyslexia but they can pick up on it through other testing.
So confused .... who do I go to? A neurodevelopmentalist, a neuropsychologist, a child psychologist, someone who does an educational evaluation???
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seeker
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Wed, Feb 15 2017, 10:36 pm
Psychoeducational is just like it sounds - a combination of psychological and educational - not one of each. One of each separately is not what you are looking for. You'd be looking for an educational psychologist (including school psychologist, in most cases) which is a psychologist who specializes in educational issues.
I have never heard of anyone doing brain imaging to diagnose dyslexia. There's a lot of imaging research but diagnosis is generally (I'd like to say always but that's an automatic risk, so I'll go with "almost always") based on symptoms.
I'm sure the online kriah test is helpful for figuring out how to target kriah tutoring but there is literally no such thing as "dyslexia in kriah." JSYK.
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amother
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Wed, Feb 15 2017, 11:17 pm
the children's specialized hospital does a 2 part evaluation - psychological and educational - 2 different departments/2 different people testing - I wonder why?
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seeker
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Wed, Feb 15 2017, 11:35 pm
I've seen team approaches. But if you were going privately looking for an individual to do testing, I would not look for separate people. If they're working as a team and it's more accessible to you, doesn't seem to be an issue. But individually, don't make yourself crazy looking for two types of testing.
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amother
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Wed, Feb 15 2017, 11:39 pm
seeker wrote: | I've seen team approaches. But if you were going privately looking for an individual to do testing, I would not look for separate people. If they're working as a team and it's more accessible to you, doesn't seem to be an issue. But individually, don't make yourself crazy looking for two types of testing. |
so you think I can rule out the neurodevelopmental eval? It's done by a dr. but I'm not sure why it was suggested. Maybe they test for all sorts of learning disabilities?
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amother
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Thu, Feb 16 2017, 3:33 pm
hi
I live in Europe, and it is so interesting to see how different testing/diagnosis is in the U.S.
I work with dyslexic children, I diagnose them and offer training sessions. I also work full time as a teacher. Im by no means a psychologist or MD, but I am licenced to test, diagnose and train/teach.
Isn't it funny how every country treats things diffrerently? As if the children we work with functioned differently depending on what side of a border they lived
I wish the OP hazlacha with finding the right shaliach for her child.
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octopus
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Thu, Feb 16 2017, 6:39 pm
amother wrote: | the children's specialized hospital does a 2 part evaluation - psychological and educational - 2 different departments/2 different people testing - I wonder why? |
That sounds extra expensive.
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seeker
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Thu, Feb 16 2017, 6:55 pm
amother wrote: | so you think I can rule out the neurodevelopmental eval? It's done by a dr. but I'm not sure why it was suggested. Maybe they test for all sorts of learning disabilities? |
Wait, you said psychologist and educator.
I was only saying that dyslexia is generally diagnosed by an educational psychologist, as per original question.
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