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amother
Pearl
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 Tue, Feb 21 2017, 5:18 pm
| amother wrote: | | I'm laughing. So many people come here for vacation for 3-4 days, love it, and decide 'hey, maybe we should move here!" Its really not so simple. The cost of living is way higher than Lakewood. You want "only" a 3-4 bedroom? If your lucky enough to find, it'll be in the $4000-$6000 range. yes, you read that right. In the valley its cheaper, but totally different type of communities (more sefardi, MO..) Tuition is over 10,000, kosher food is more expensive. |
For the record, north hollywood has a lovely community that is more affordable than Hancock park and might be a better fit for the op. Shaarey Zadek is not very modern orthodox or sfardi. In fact, I am modern Orthodox and don't feel very comfortable there. It's a nice out of town community with all types of people but there are certainly many people with a kollel/yeshiva background
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amother
Emerald
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Tue, Feb 21 2017, 5:57 pm
| amother wrote: | | For the record, north hollywood has a lovely community that is more affordable than Hancock park and might be a better fit for the op. Shaarey Zadek is not very modern orthodox or sfardi. In fact, I am modern Orthodox and don't feel very comfortable there. It's a nice out of town community with all types of people but there are certainly many people with a kollel/yeshiva background |
OP here. Can I ask why you don't feel comfortable there?
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amother
Pearl
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Tue, Feb 21 2017, 6:08 pm
| amother wrote: | | OP here. Can I ask why you don't feel comfortable there? |
Because I prefer a more modern orthodox style (more women's involvement and learning opportunities , less emphasis on tznius and kollel, etc.)
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amother
Crimson
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Tue, Feb 21 2017, 7:00 pm
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I think the only chassidish people live in Hancock park area. There are not many and most if not all go to the cheidr which is a small school. I think la is very different than Lakewood and you should come for the summer or for shabbos before. It is also very difficult to find a job.
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amother
Denim
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Tue, Feb 21 2017, 7:04 pm
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3500??? Wow!! It's not as expensive as New York much higher ! In Brooklyn 3 bedrooms are 2000 to 2500 range
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tichellady
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Tue, Feb 21 2017, 7:21 pm
| amother wrote: | | 3500??? Wow!! It's not as expensive as New York much higher ! In Brooklyn 3 bedrooms are 2000 to 2500 range |
Depends where. Manhattan is much more expensive than that. Parts of Brooklyn are too. Parts of Los Angeles are cheaper than that.
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amother
Crimson
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Tue, Feb 21 2017, 8:39 pm
| amother wrote: | | 3500??? Wow!! It's not as expensive as New York much higher ! In Brooklyn 3 bedrooms are 2000 to 2500 range |
In Hancock park as far as I know 3 bedrooms is closer to 4000 or more. If it is a house it is more than 6000
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amother
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Tue, Feb 21 2017, 8:40 pm
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amother
Periwinkle
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Tue, Feb 21 2017, 8:46 pm
I live in the valley. Realistically to make it here, with tuition, cost of living etc you need to make a minimum of 250,000 a year.
To purchase a small home in the valley would cost around 875,000, Hancock park 1,000,000 although you can rent a duplex probably for 3500-4000 a month there. And pico is even more money.
We bought back in 2001 and made a good investment off of our home. Unless you have a nest egg I don't recommend it at all.
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flowerpower
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Tue, Feb 21 2017, 8:46 pm
| amother wrote: | | 3500??? Wow!! It's not as expensive as New York much higher ! In Brooklyn 3 bedrooms are 2000 to 2500 range |
Not anymore. They are like $2800 and up
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amother
Lilac
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Tue, Feb 21 2017, 8:53 pm
| amother wrote: | I live in the valley. Realistically to make it here, with tuition, cost of living etc you need to make a minimum of 250,000 a year.
To purchase a small home in the valley would cost around 875,000, Hancock park 1,000,000 although you can rent a duplex probably for 3500-4000 a month there. And pico is even more money.
We bought back in 2001 and made a good investment off of our home. Unless you have a nest egg I don't recommend it at all. |
HP homes are minimum 1.4. I looked to buy as I rent.
People are moving to the valley, to areas just outside what was commonly thought of as the frum community etc. like near crescent heights instead pico/Robertson or beverlywood for pico community.
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amother
Denim
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Tue, Feb 21 2017, 8:55 pm
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I just looked for a friend saw tons of three bedrooms under 25
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amother
Periwinkle
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Tue, Feb 21 2017, 9:28 pm
| amother wrote: | HP homes are minimum 1.4. I looked to buy as I rent.
People are moving to the valley, to areas just outside what was commonly thought of as the frum community etc. like near crescent heights instead pico/Robertson or beverlywood for pico community. |
HP adjacent you can get a tiny house for 1 million. But yes, HP itself is way more expensive. A lot of people are moving to the valley and commuting to Toras Emes
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amother
Blue
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Tue, Feb 21 2017, 9:38 pm
| tichellady wrote: | | Depends where. Manhattan is much more expensive than that. Parts of Brooklyn are too. Parts of Los Angeles are cheaper than that. |
Yup a one bedroom on the Upper West side is minimum 3000/month. Two or 3 bedrooms are astronomical.
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amother
Periwinkle
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Tue, Feb 21 2017, 11:12 pm
| amother wrote: | | OP here. Can I ask why you don't feel comfortable there? |
My In laws live in HP and we loathe going there. It's wayyy more materialistic than the valley. Not very down to earth at all. A lot of "old" money that controls what goes on.
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amother
Lime
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Tue, Feb 21 2017, 11:18 pm
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I grew up in LA, but none of my friends live there. It has become completely unaffordable. Sad.
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eschaya
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Wed, Feb 22 2017, 8:46 am
Another former Angeleno who would never be able to afford, nor would want, to live there. I agree that it's a wonderful place for vacation, but that doesn't necessarily correlate to good place to live. I'd recommend spending a few months there, trying to get a job first, find out more about the areas and communities, and then make a more informed decision.
HP may have chassidim, but it's far from being a chassidish community. Plenty of yeshivish/kollel, MO. It's also incredibly expensive. When I grew up in LA (HP) it had a nice community feel, was kind of laid back, everyone knew each other. It's not like that anymore. It's also gotten very polarized, so everyone I know either moved to the right or the left, and its also become very materialistic and externality focused. If I had to move back, I'd probably move to the Valley (though still would barely be able to afford it).
Not trying to discourage you outright, but you need to be a lot more realistic. Yes, the weather is gorgeous and the palm trees are cool, and there are lots of tourist sites... but these don't necessarily translate into a good place to live.
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amother
Emerald
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Wed, Feb 22 2017, 10:27 am
| eschaya wrote: | Another former Angeleno who would never be able to afford, nor would want, to live there. I agree that it's a wonderful place for vacation, but that doesn't necessarily correlate to good place to live. I'd recommend spending a few months there, trying to get a job first, find out more about the areas and communities, and then make a more informed decision.
HP may have chassidim, but it's far from being a chassidish community. Plenty of yeshivish/kollel, MO. It's also incredibly expensive. When I grew up in LA (HP) it had a nice community feel, was kind of laid back, everyone knew each other. It's not like that anymore. It's also gotten very polarized, so everyone I know either moved to the right or the left, and its also become very materialistic and externality focused. If I had to move back, I'd probably move to the Valley (though still would barely be able to afford it).
Not trying to discourage you outright, but you need to be a lot more realistic. Yes, the weather is gorgeous and the palm trees are cool, and there are lots of tourist sites... but these don't necessarily translate into a good place to live. |
I see what you're saying but I like in Lakewood and I can say a lot of the same things about this city. A lot of the people that live here are very materialistic and it doesn't have a warm community feel because it's so big. I grew up out of town but for numerous reasons, I can't move back to the city I grew up in. I like the smaller community vibe and we know some pple in LA and that was part of the decision. We also met a lot of pple from the LA community when we were there for shabbos and really appreciated the warmth there.
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doctorima
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Wed, Feb 22 2017, 10:49 am
Even if Lakewood is also materialistic like LA, the difference in cost of living is still astounding. In Lakewood you can get a gorgeous brand-new house for $750k. In LA, what you can buy for $750k might not even need a mezuzah!  Also, cost of schooling is way higher. What costs $5k in Lakewood can be $15-$20k in LA (per child!).
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amother
Navy
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Wed, Feb 22 2017, 10:50 am
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Op, sorry to go off topic but what job do you have that u can take with you?
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