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amother
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 Fri, Apr 07 2017, 6:31 pm
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Its crazy that several hotels cancelled right before pesach. what did you end up doing?
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doctorima
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Sat, Apr 08 2017, 9:30 pm
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I only heard about one. Which programs cancelled, and why?
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amother
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Sat, Apr 08 2017, 9:42 pm
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I heard of 3 programs that cancelled. One in San Francisco , Greece and I think Italy. They said they had problems with the hotel or something
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smileyface:)
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Sat, Apr 08 2017, 9:47 pm
I was not planning on going to a hotel but I FEEL SO BAD FOR THOSE WHO WERE!!!
it must be super hard!
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amother
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Sat, Apr 08 2017, 9:55 pm
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pesek zman
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Sat, Apr 08 2017, 9:57 pm
| amother wrote: | | I heard of 3 programs that cancelled. One in San Francisco , Greece and I think Italy. They said they had problems with the hotel or something |
It was San Diego (prime) and Cos, Greece. I also heard about a program in Sardinia (I think) in Italy
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octopus
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Sat, Apr 08 2017, 10:49 pm
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omg. So the hilton one allegedly is not refunding the deposit even though they cancelled. I don't understand. Why wouldn't they refund the deposit at the very least?
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ra_mom
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Sat, Apr 08 2017, 10:50 pm
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There is always a contract and if the Hilton won't refund their deposit it must be in accordance with the signed contract.
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amother
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Sat, Apr 08 2017, 11:24 pm
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You forgot about the pesachforless Basking Ridge fiasco
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cnc
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Sat, Apr 08 2017, 11:24 pm
| amother wrote: | | You forgot about the pesachforless Basking Ridge fiasco |
What happened ?
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amother
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Sat, Apr 08 2017, 11:30 pm
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cnc
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Sat, Apr 08 2017, 11:32 pm
Wow
When was this decided?
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amother
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Sat, Apr 08 2017, 11:33 pm
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Wow. Didn't hear about the last one. Feel really bad for the families who were supposed to go
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MagentaYenta
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Sat, Apr 08 2017, 11:39 pm
| amother wrote: | | http://www.pesachforless.com/2017/index.html |
Motion and RF sensors are a given with any modern hotel accommodation. You may not see them but they are there.
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octopus
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Sat, Apr 08 2017, 11:41 pm
| MagentaYenta wrote: | | Motion and RF sensors are a given with any modern hotel accommodation. You may not see them but they are there. |
It sounds like that group cancelled on the hotel because of updated technology. The hilton one sounds like the hotel cancelled on the group. but who knows?!
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gamanit
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Sat, Apr 08 2017, 11:44 pm
| MagentaYenta wrote: | | Motion and RF sensors are a given with any modern hotel accommodation. You may not see them but they are there. |
There was an article in some magazine about this- I believe it was in the Ami- a few weeks ago. Basically they were saying that there's an option of "VIP mode" which overrides the motion sensors and leaves the lights on regardless of whether or not motion is detected. The hotel refused to allow them to use VIP mode for any of the rooms. It sounds like other hotels are usually more accommodating and are willing to override- maybe for a small additional fee.
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MagentaYenta
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Sun, Apr 09 2017, 12:30 am
| gamanit wrote: | | There was an article in some magazine about this- I believe it was in the Ami- a few weeks ago. Basically they were saying that there's an option of "VIP mode" which overrides the motion sensors and leaves the lights on regardless of whether or not motion is detected. The hotel refused to allow them to use VIP mode for any of the rooms. It sounds like other hotels are usually more accommodating and are willing to override- maybe for a small additional fee. |
Integrated room automation systems are tied into a number of physical plant networks, not just lights. IRAS are routinely act as heat sensors and transmit to HVAC systems, so it's likely that taking a single or block of rooms offline isn't realistic or possible.
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WhatFor
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Sun, Apr 09 2017, 12:38 am
According to this article, Pesachforless cancelled in February and everyone got their deposits back.
http://forward.com/food/368449.....ions/
But I don't understand all these other last second cancellations. Sounds like a bunch of lawsuits waiting to happen. Like, if there's no accountability, what's to protect people from elaborate scams- you deposit tons of money, we cancel last second, sorry, no backsies, bye?
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tigerwife
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Sun, Apr 09 2017, 12:40 am
So the question remains: For those who've had their plans fall through with just about a week's notice, what are you doing? Finding another hotel? Making a last-minute Pesach?
I feel terrible for the guests but I feel even worse for the staff.
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ectomorph
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Sun, Apr 09 2017, 1:31 am
| WhatFor wrote: | According to this article, Pesachforless cancelled in February and everyone got their deposits back.
http://forward.com/food/368449.....ions/
But I don't understand all these other last second cancellations. Sounds like a bunch of lawsuits waiting to happen. Like, if there's no accountability, what's to protect people from elaborate scams- you deposit tons of money, we cancel last second, sorry, no backsies, bye? | someone ran a scam doing exactly that some years ago
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