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If I don't do it now, WHEN?! Pls Help me make aliyah



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Oh!whatfun




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Apr 30 2017, 9:29 am
first of all lets me start my saying I have an immense love for the land of Israel. The people, the place, the hustle and buzz. Ive been "wanting to make aliyah for the past 4 years and there has been something always that has stood in the way. We have a nice amount of family (not so much in chutz l'haretz) there and have been back since we got married a handful of times. I consider myself a more spiritual person and quite recently I have started to feeling restless about my spiritual status here. I long for the simplicity of Israel and how organic it all comes. I definitely feeling the lacking here and not having having family makes it harder. In addition the quality of life in israel is better in my eyes.

The things I have always struggled with are parnessa. My husband learns full time and we manage here through diff types of miracle jobs that we got. Neither my husband or I have degrees. I am a certified social skills specialist and my husband is a fundraiser.

I have a special needs son (my youngest) who needs a special school. He has a rare syndrome and seizures. He is globally developmentally delayed.

My children are not so young and attend Montessori schools 8,6,4,2.5

if anyone can help me with the following resources I would appreciate it

1)What are the special needs schools available and where are they located? Do they cost money? Expensive?

2)Are there certain fields or training that anyone would recommend to aid in parnessah?

3) Beyond what age is it just "too hard" to come with children. What is the learning like compared to American Yeshivahs? Any tips or suggestions to make the transition easier? What did you recommend on how to go about choosing a school? What options are there foe English speaking schools. Im not necessarily looking for an American place just somewhere where my kids will do well with transition.

4) What neighborhoods do people recommend? Simple, some Americans but not too American. Kollel families and warm.

5) chizuk needed

thanks in advance!
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amother
Indigo


 

Post Sun, Apr 30 2017, 9:40 am
If you need special services for a child, your best bet is to live in Yerushalayim, where there are free religious programs. It's harder to find good programming outside of the city.

Nefesh bNefesh is a great resource. They can help find someone in a similar situation to talk to you.
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FranticFrummie




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Apr 30 2017, 1:24 pm
You're doing great! Research, research, and daven. Very Happy

"Hashem, if it is Your will, bring us to your glorious land, in the right time, in a clear, easy, and stress free way."

Most definitely talk to your N b'N coordinator. Do you have your Aliyah file open yet?

Post an inquiry about J'lem schools in the "Children with Special Needs" forum.
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amother
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Post Sun, Apr 30 2017, 2:12 pm
I've heard amazing things about the schooling for ALL children in the Gush. Special needs, tutoring, Hebrew language immersion.....Research the school system in Gush Etzion! My understanding is that it's free and high quality and some even run 12 months out of the year.
Please know: RW in Israel is NOT the same thing as RW in America...wherever you decide to live, inquire what kind of high schools and post high school opportunities the students where ever you end up sending for elementary go to.
Good luck! I'm jealous!
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Marion




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Apr 30 2017, 2:46 pm
School is not free, not even special ed, it's just a heck of a lot less expensive than in chu"l. (Of course, salaries are also lower, however...) The "level" is higher IME; they don't have to learn a second language before they can learn in the original.
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Oh!whatfun




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Apr 30 2017, 2:49 pm
Thank you everyone. Where is Gush? Sorry, Im oblivious.
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water_bear88




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Apr 30 2017, 2:52 pm
Oh!whatfun wrote:
Thank you everyone. Where is Gush? Sorry, Im oblivious.


Gush Etzion- just south of Yerushalayim.
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FranticFrummie




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Apr 30 2017, 2:56 pm
Definitely make Aliyah before your oldest child turns 12. Trust me on this. Crying

Your younger ones will pick up the language fast, and will thrive. Plan on getting a Hebrew tutor for the older ones, and practice around the house. Make it a game. "No, you can't have money for ice cream, but you can have shekels for glidah!" When you walk to the park, see how many things you can name. Roses are veredim, a tree is eitz, a rock is tzur, etc.

Actually, start practicing Hebrew NOW, before the move. That's one thing I really regret not doing. I think it would have made a huge difference to DD if she had some basic conversation skills when we arrived.

"Hebrew for Dummies" is a good starter, and has stickers you can put all over your house, to practice vocabulary. The stickers come off easily, so you can take them to your new home in Israel.
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Oh!whatfun




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, May 01 2017, 1:00 pm
FranticFrummie wrote:
Definitely make Aliyah before your oldest child turns 12. Trust me on this. Crying

Your younger ones will pick up the language fast, and will thrive. Plan on getting a Hebrew tutor for the older ones, and practice around the house. Make it a game. "No, you can't have money for ice cream, but you can have shekels for glidah!" When you walk to the park, see how many things you can name. Roses are veredim, a tree is eitz, a rock is tzur, etc.

Actually, start practicing Hebrew NOW, before the move. That's one thing I really regret not doing. I think it would have made a huge difference to DD if she had some basic conversation skills when we arrived.

"Hebrew for Dummies" is a good starter, and has stickers you can put all over your house, to practice vocabulary. The stickers come off easily, so you can take them to your new home in Israel.



I really want to come next year. I guess in terms of Parnessah its hard for me going to be doing some research there! thanks!!
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amother
Gold


 

Post Mon, May 01 2017, 1:56 pm
Do not expect to find many schools that will be just like American yashivish.
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Oh!whatfun




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, May 01 2017, 2:49 pm
amother wrote:
Do not expect to find many schools that will be just like American yashivish.


in what sense? Do you live in israel now?
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shabbatiscoming




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, May 01 2017, 5:01 pm
Oh!whatfun wrote:
3) Beyond what age is it just "too hard" to come with children. What is the learning like compared to American Yeshivahs? Any tips or suggestions to make the transition easier? What did you recommend on how to go about choosing a school? What options are there foe English speaking schools. Im not necessarily looking for an American place just somewhere where my kids will do well with transition.
There are no english speaking schools in Israel except for possibly the international school, but I dont think thats what you are looking for Smile
You need to find a place to live where there are a lot of olim so that the administration and staff of the school are willing and able to help your children adapt and acclimate to their new life.
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essie14




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, May 01 2017, 11:36 pm
shabbatiscoming wrote:
There are no english speaking schools in Israel except for possibly the international school, but I dont think thats what you are looking for Smile

Incorrect
YTA (separate boys and girls schools) teaches in English
www.yta.org.il



shabbatiscoming wrote:

You need to find a place to live where there are a lot of olim so that the administration and staff of the school are willing and able to help your children adapt and acclimate to their new life.

Agreed. Don't move somewhere up north where there are not much resources for Olim. Cities with large Anglo populations will be a much softer landing
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DrMom




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, May 01 2017, 11:53 pm
Re: parnassa:

What is a "certified social skills specialist?"

Does your DH fundraise for a particular organization? Could he continue to do this from abroad?

Do you plan on selling/renting your current home?
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amother
Natural


 

Post Tue, May 02 2017, 1:01 am
OP, you sound a bit in la-la land.

Caught up and excited at the prospect, but not really willing to address the practicalities.

If you don't speak the language, how can you be a social skills therapist?

Please, don't rush into this.
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champion




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, May 02 2017, 8:10 am
FranticFrummie wrote:
a rock is tzur, etc.

In Modern Hebrew a rock is an even... LOL
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