Early breast buds | Imamother

amother

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Sun, Oct 15 2017, 9:11 pm

My daughter will be 8 next month and has breast buds. She is on the heavier side so I hear this is more common in heavier children.
My dr suggested I go to a pediatric endo, but I am hesitant to take her since she hasnt noticed anything , and I dont want her to be made aware of it by going to the appointment. Also, I am very hesitant to put her on hormones.
Any advice?

ra_mom

Mon, Oct 16 2017, 1:02 pm

You definitely should go. They'll just be checking to make sure everything is ok and it's not likely that she'll be put on hormones. They just want to help your daughter not cause harm. Feel free to bring headphones and something to keep you daughter busy with while you speak to the nurse about your concerns of discussing this in front of your dd.

MagentaYenta

Mon, Oct 16 2017, 1:03 pm

amother wrote:

I don't understand this attitude, can you please explain it? Are you fearful you will have to discuss your daughter's physical maturation with her?

It sounds like you don't realize that precocious puberty can be triggered by serious issues like tumors of the pituitary and adrenals. It can also be a sign of more serious issues that can affect skeletal development.

Why deprive your child of necessary medical care that could potentially put her at risk?

amother

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Mon, Oct 16 2017, 1:24 pm

No! I have no qualms with discussing it with her if needed. I just read on here about the hormones that they give and would be very hesitant to administer it . The side effects scare me.

ra_mom

Mon, Oct 16 2017, 1:31 pm

I want to add that if your daughter does in fact have breast buds and it's not just chub, then
1. she is already aware of it because the little hard buds beneath the breasts hurt as they grow
2. growing breast buds indicate puberty and period is likely within the next 1-2 years. She needs advance notice of what's going on with her body you can't hide this from her or c"v she could be scared out of her mind when it comes and she's not prepared.

Regarding your concerns about hormone treatment,
1. it is highly unlikely that hormones will be necessary. More likely they may want to slow down the growth, not increase it with hormones. But even that is unlikely.
2. If hormones are beneficial they will discuss the pros and cons and you will decide what you want to do. Nobody will force you to administer anything.

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MagentaYenta

Mon, Oct 16 2017, 1:31 pm

amother wrote:

No! I have no qualms with discussing it with her if needed. I just read on here about the hormones that they give and would be very hesitant to administer it . The side effects scare me.

Without seeing a Dr you have no idea if her treatment would include hormone therapy. Instead you choose to put her at risk.

I have no patience to argue with a parent to take their child to a Dr. to rule out more serious conditions. I've presented some facts to you. Do what you will.

shabbatiscoming

Mon, Oct 16 2017, 2:52 pm

Wait im trying to understand. You mean give her hormones to slow down the development of her breasts?
Please dont. They all grow up. My Daughter is nine and she has a few girls in herclass who have been wearing bras for a year already. Whats the issue here? Sad

Ruchel

Mon, Oct 16 2017, 2:54 pm

Oh wow that's so early. Bras start in middle school around my daughter, and she's so not looking forward (my friends and I also didn't want and many waited until 15+). She's now in 6 and still most don't... Some families and ethnicities (is that word barred here?) start early. But 8....

amother

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Mon, Oct 16 2017, 2:55 pm

MagentaYenta wrote:

wow. I came here to see if others had been through this that can offer me more information and guidance not mom shaming? I never said I wouldnt go! just hesitant.

amother

Denim

Mon, Oct 16 2017, 2:59 pm

shabbatiscoming wrote:

The issue is that 8 is in fact on the very early end, and it would be wise as others have stated to have a Dr assess her to see what level her hormone development is at.

The doctor will most likely take blood and do a wrist x-ray to determine bone age. Puberty signals the end of bone growth and among other things (ie pituitary issues etc) one would want to make sure that she doesn't remain at her 8 year old height.

There are very good reasons to consult an endocrinologist.

amother

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Mon, Oct 16 2017, 3:00 pm

shabbatiscoming wrote:

My thoughts exactly. I want my daughter to embrace her development at whatever age it occurs, and a trip to specialist definitely doesnt help. shes self aware already but clueless abt hed development. If there are other reasons this may be occuring I may reconsider.

Chayalle

Mon, Oct 16 2017, 3:00 pm

Just want to give you some info about what a first visit to a Pediatric Endocrinologist might be like, having been there with my child (different issue but I imagine same routine.) It's very much like a well-visit to your child's regular pediatrician. They will get height/weight (a good endocrinologist will have very precise scales) and ask you questions about your child's medical history. They may do a bit of a physical exam (which is a good idea to prepare your child for) much like a regular pediatric visit.

Based on what the issue may be, they may order blood work and/or bone scan/xray. They certainly will not put your child on hormones without looking at blood work. They only put a child on hormones if the child's hormones are low in that area.

amother

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Mon, Oct 16 2017, 3:01 pm

Chayalle wrote:

thank you. are there signs around that I dont need her reading? I know you are in lakewood, can I ask which dr u went to and if you were happy? my pediatrician made a general recommendation of jersey shore but didnt specify a dr..

amother

Denim

Mon, Oct 16 2017, 3:05 pm

amother wrote:

wow. I came here to see if others had been through this that can offer me more information and guidance not mom shaming? I never said I wouldnt go! just hesitant.

Of course you don't deserve to be shamed! You are right to be concerned with creating a fear or embarrassment or just a premature awareness in her.

I would speak to the endocrinologist myself first, and explain this. I would hope she/he would be aware and receptive to this. Explain that you'd like an exam, etc, but that you'd like dd to see it as a regular sort of well visit, without any open discussion in front of her that could make her aware/embarrassed /confused. At 8 that shouldn't be difficult. If there is anything that needs discussion with her, you can do it on your own time, in your own way, after figuring out how you'd ant to present it. Not in a cold strange doctor's office. Of course you are right to consider the emotional impact!!

Chayalle

Mon, Oct 16 2017, 3:23 pm

amother wrote:

No! I have no qualms with discussing it with her if needed. I just read on here about the hormones that they give and would be very hesitant to administer it . The side effects scare me.

They only give hormones if a child's body is deficient in hormones.

My child was very very petite. Everyone told me she should take growth hormones, but her hormone levels were perfect. Endocrinologist told me to do nothing, she would catch up somewhat eventually - which she did.

So no, they don't rush to put kids on hormones when not indicated.

ETA: I'm glad I took her because I felt that checking things out was the right thing to do for my child. Though B"H everything was as should be.

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Chayalle

Mon, Oct 16 2017, 3:24 pm

amother wrote:

I don't recall any signs around that were in any way problematic, though it's 9 years since. I took her to Dr. Shulamit Lerner in Riverdale NY, since I wanted a female. She's affiliated with Columbia, or was back then.

amother

Ivory

Mon, Oct 16 2017, 3:57 pm

I had a similar situation with my daughter. The dr was very interested in height of parents and grandparents, the childs growth chart, age of pubert of parents and granparents, bloodwork, and hand x ray to determine bone growth. As a PP poster said, the issue is less the breast buds, but rather the period coming by age 10, and reaching full height by approx then. If your daughtet is quite tall, it will be less concerning to them than a 46" 8yr old who may not reach past 4 8. as an adult.
There is very little concerning hanging on the walls, mostly about diabetes. If your child is observant and precocious, prepare for detailed conversations on insulin and thyroids but not much else.

amother

Emerald

Tue, Oct 17 2017, 2:18 am

I am dealing with my daughter, who is 7, and has started developing.
Asking here about this issue, this was the information I got:

"You want to lower estrogen.
Keep away from hormone laden dairy, eggs meat and chicken-so go organic. Stay away from soy ( which is put in almost all processed food-soy protein isolate)
Heating plastic is also a major source estrogen mimicking chemicals.
And lowering insulin by reducing sugar and refined carbohydrates lowers excess estrogen. Here is an article about it https://www.womenshealthnetwor.....quot;

Reading up on precocious puberty has me concerned, with higher risks of diabetes, heart disease, and a higher risk of cancer. I would check out with an endocrinologist, but without overtly explaining the whole background, so she doesn't become self-conscious. Lots of hatzlacha.