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mama-star
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 Thu, Jun 25 2009, 6:32 pm
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...so is it an "announcement" or a "mazal tov"...?
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shopaholic
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Thu, Jun 25 2009, 6:33 pm
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Like I wrote to my friend on Facebook - big bloody whoop. Am I mean?
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mama-star
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Thu, Jun 25 2009, 6:34 pm
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well it IS one less weirdo in the world...
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bubby
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Thu, Jun 25 2009, 6:34 pm
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Cancel my thread, I prefer this one!! No loss.
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Falafel
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Thu, Jun 25 2009, 6:46 pm
oy oy, I feel awful for his kids!
as far as I know, his kids are jewish (surrogate mother is jewish - her eggs were used).
they are sure inheriting lots of baggage - and most likely debt!
as much as I don't care, I do feel a small loss - I DID grow up listening to him!
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Falafel
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Thu, Jun 25 2009, 6:47 pm
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greenfire
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Thu, Jun 25 2009, 6:51 pm
I think despite his unique personality michael brought a lot into the world and to speak lowly upon someone's death really is unconscionable ...
I'd like to remember him singing as a kid:
"abc 123 easy as you & me" 
"Ben, the two of us need look no more
We both found what we were looking for
With a friend to call my own
I’ll never be alone
And you my friend will see
You’ve got a friend in me
(you’ve got a friend in me)
Ben, you’re always running here and there
(here and there)
You feel you’re not wanted anywhere
(anywhere)
If you ever look behind
And don’t like what you find
There’s something you should know
You’ve got a place to go
(you’ve got a place to go)
I used to say, I and me
Now it’s us, now it’s we
(I used to say, I and me)
(now it’s us, now it’s we)
Ben, most people would turn you away
I don’t listen to a word they say
They don’t see you as I do
I wish they would try to
I’m sure they’d think again
If they had a friend like ben
(a friend)
Like ben
(like ben)
Like ben"
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Barbara
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Thu, Jun 25 2009, 6:59 pm
Well, I hope that no one says that when YOU die.
Michael Jackson was a man of incredible talent. Listen to the Jackson 5 someday -- its clean, btw -- and you can hear the promise. Listen to Thriller, or watch the videos, and you can see the fulfillment of that promise.
He was also a man who was haunted by demons. What those demons were, we can only speculate ... the demons of finding fame at so young an age, or an allegedly abusive father, or being pimped out, of being in the spotlight, I don't know. But it clearly warped his soul. He had surgery after surgery after surgery to erase the image of his adolescent awkwardness. He changed the color of his own skin. He tried to be Peter Pan, never growing up. Yes, it made him very strange. But can't we, for a moment, at his death, step back and hate whatever did that to him while remembering the spark of good in his soul?
Did he abuse young children? I suspect that he did. I will in no way minimize the horror of that. But we have to ask what made him do that.
Baruch dayan emet. Rest in peace, Michael. May Hashem judge you favorably; I hope that you're finally at peace.
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Mirabelle
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Thu, Jun 25 2009, 7:03 pm
I am very sad.
He was a genius.
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Clarissa
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Thu, Jun 25 2009, 7:03 pm
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"I'll Be There" was my favorite song in 1970. I still find it beautiful.
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Barbara
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Thu, Jun 25 2009, 7:08 pm
| Clarissa wrote: | | "I'll Be There" was my favorite song in 1970. I still find it beautiful. |
I suspect that those of us who remember him then are saddened by his death in a way that younger women cannot understand.
Does anyone else remember the Jackson 5? Or the cartoon?
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DevorahMonsey
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Thu, Jun 25 2009, 7:32 pm
| Barbara wrote: | | Clarissa wrote: | | "I'll Be There" was my favorite song in 1970. I still find it beautiful. |
I suspect that those of us who remember him then are saddened by his death in a way that younger women cannot understand.
Does anyone else remember the Jackson 5? Or the cartoon? |
I was born in 1970 (there, I've said it!) but of course this is the music I grew up with (and was just listening to two nights ago). I used to cry at "Got to Be There" after my first daughter was born -- listen to it sometime in the context of thinking of your own child.
Great talent is often accompanied by an equally exceptional yetzer hara. Take that and magnify it on the world stage, and there's nothing but rachmonos to have for that poor dear little boy and what happened to him.
I take no joy in this.
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ruthla
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Thu, Jun 25 2009, 7:36 pm
I'm releived that this man won't have the opportunity to hurt any more little boys, if, in fact, he did that.
But NOBODY'S death can ever be a "Mazel Tov." There are times when it's less sad, such as an older person who's lived a full life, or a very sick person who's been suffereing for a long time and is finally at peace...but then it's only "less sad", never "happy."
For a 50yo man to die suddenly of a heart attack is a tragedy.
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DefyGravity
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Thu, Jun 25 2009, 7:45 pm
| Barbara wrote: | | He changed the color of his own skin. |
He had vitiligo, the disease where skin loses patches of color, and I think he opted for chemical depigmentation, which is why he's white.
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mommalah
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Thu, Jun 25 2009, 7:53 pm
Was the post by Barbara about Farrah's claim to fame being her nipples deleted by the mods? and my subsequent thumbs up?
That sucks!
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sarahd
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Thu, Jun 25 2009, 8:00 pm
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No, you posted that in a different thread. This thread doesn't talk about Farrah.
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NotSoNewKallah
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Thu, Jun 25 2009, 8:50 pm
To quote a friend of mine: (giving credit where credit is due hastens the Geulah)
"Yes Michael Jackson died, but one child dies every five seconds from hunger and more than 400,000 people have died in the genocide in Darfur. While the genocide has only had 18 minutes of airtime nationwide, Michael Jackson’s death slowed down the internet! Indeed he was an important figure, an icon, but let's worry about more important things. Shouldn’t humanity reconsider its priorities?"
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