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Post Posted: Sun, Nov 15 2009, 9:07 am       Post subject: Mezinka Dance
Do you do a Mezinka dance at your last child's wedding if one of your children is divorced?
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Post Posted: Sun, Nov 15 2009, 9:13 am       Post subject: Re: Mezinka Dance
amother wrote:
Do you do a Mezinka dance at your last child's wedding if one of your children is divorced?


Nowadays I have been to many weddings, where no one is divorced, and there is no mezinka dance.
People are so afraid of ayin hara, that they choose to skip it for that or for other reasons.
Some dont want to face the empty nest in public, and prefer to keep it private.
Others cannot bear to think of their old age and what it signifies.
So in the past 20 years or so, I have been to many mezinka weddings, without the dance!
So, if in doubt, do without!
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Post Posted: Wed, Nov 18 2009, 5:52 pm       Post subject: re: Mezinka Dance
My husband has a brother who is divorced and when his younger sister got married they did do a Mezinka dance.
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Post Posted: Wed, Nov 18 2009, 6:15 pm       Post subject: re: Mezinka Dance
What kind of dance is that?
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Post Posted: Wed, Nov 18 2009, 6:18 pm       Post subject: Re: re: Mezinka Dance
Besiyata Dishmaya wrote:
What kind of dance is that?

The Mezinka is danced at the youngest child's wedding with brooms. Kind of like "sweeping out the house" when the last one leaves.
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Post Posted: Wed, Nov 18 2009, 9:46 pm       Post subject: re: Mezinka Dance
Isn't it all about the child being the youngest... empty nest? It's not the youngest's problem because an older sibling moved back home.
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Post Posted: Wed, Nov 18 2009, 9:51 pm       Post subject:
I would think that you do it.
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iamawife








Post Posted: Wed, Nov 18 2009, 9:57 pm       Post subject:
my dh and his youngest sister where engaged @ the same time she got married 8 week b4 us and they did it
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Post Posted: Thu, Nov 19 2009, 1:09 am       Post subject:
I know of 3 mothers who after doing the mezinka dance found themselves pg!! they all had their youngest kid really young, in their early 20's, and suddenly in their mid 40s after emptying the nest,had another baby!
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Post Posted: Thu, Nov 19 2009, 2:16 am       Post subject: re: Mezinka Dance
I don't like the idea; I think it's insensitive. There are so many parents whose children have special needs, or died rachmana litzlan, who will never enjoy the happy occasion of marrying off all their children. Why rub it in? You may never know about a guest's personal tzuris.

I also felt uncomfortable joining the mezinka circle at my younger brother's wedding - I didn't exactly "dance", but it was a mixed circle, with mxed onlookers, and it felt weird, but my mother wanted it.
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Post Posted: Thu, Nov 19 2009, 2:40 am       Post subject: Re: re: Mezinka Dance
Isramom8 wrote:
I don't like the idea; I think it's insensitive. There are so many parents whose children have special needs, or died rachmana litzlan, who will never enjoy the happy occasion of marrying off all their children. Why rub it in? You may never know about a guest's personal tzuris.


Sorry but by that logic no one should invite these people to ANY wedding, Mazinka being danced or not.
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Post Posted: Thu, Nov 19 2009, 3:11 pm       Post subject: re: Mezinka Dance
My second-to-youngest sister got married recently to a youngest. Her DH has an older special-needs (DS) sibling. They did dance the mezinka at her wedding.

My mother said she will not dance the mezinka when my youngest sister gets married B"EH. This is because I have a special-needs brother who is older than her and highly intelligent, and she would never hurt his feelings.

Different situations....everyone's got to make a decision that works for them.
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Post Posted: Thu, Nov 19 2009, 3:32 pm       Post subject:
Mama Bear wrote:
I know of 3 mothers who after doing the mezinka dance found themselves pg!! they all had their youngest kid really young, in their early 20's, and suddenly in their mid 40s after emptying the nest,had another baby!


sounds like a good segula!
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Post Posted: Thu, Nov 19 2009, 4:10 pm       Post subject: Re: re: Mezinka Dance
ShakleeMom wrote:
Isn't it all about the child being the youngest... empty nest? It's not the youngest's problem because an older sibling moved back home.



Mizinka, or Muzhinke, means "youngest child", and usually the youngest and the last to be married are one and the same. But not always. If the youngest is married but an older one is not, then methinks the dance doesn't apply b/c the parents still have a child to marry off. The dance is not in honor of the kid but of the parents, (who is sitting in the center? The parents.) who can finally relax because they puffed off their last one.

I should think, that if a previously married sib moved back home, that doesn't "count" against the dance b/c that sib has already been married off.

But this is pure folk custom having zip to do with halacha, so one id free to do as one wishes. Dance it, don't dance it--as long as everyone has a good time.
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amother








Post Posted: Thu, Nov 19 2009, 4:15 pm       Post subject: re: Mezinka Dance
My sister married the youngest, while he still had two older single brothers. They did the mezhinka dance.
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Post Posted: Thu, Nov 19 2009, 4:15 pm       Post subject: re: Mezinka Dance
I agree with everyone who said do whatever everyone feels comfortable with. My youngest brother is getting married soon, and we won't be doing the broom dance as my mother is vehemently opposed to it. (She claims that her nest is not emptying out, she's bringing one more in!)
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Post Posted: Thu, Nov 19 2009, 6:35 pm       Post subject: re: Mezinka Dance
This dancing with a broom for the youngest child is a Hungarian thing. It was not done in Poland, Galicia or anywhere else.
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Post Posted: Fri, Nov 20 2009, 2:52 pm       Post subject: Re: re: Mezinka Dance
onlyme wrote:
(She claims that her nest is not emptying out, she's bringing one more in!)


I LIKE your mother! She sounds like a terrific MIL.
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Post Posted: Sat, Nov 21 2009, 2:02 pm       Post subject: Re: re: Mezinka Dance
louche wrote:
onlyme wrote:
(She claims that her nest is not emptying out, she's bringing one more in!)


I LIKE your mother! She sounds like a terrific MIL.


I see it that way too. You're never "free" of kids if you look at your role as being there for them at whatever stage they are at.

If a child is divorced, then your burden hasn't been lifted in any case, so I don't see a reason to dance.

If it's a Hungarian thing, then now I understand why my mother felt it appropriate! She comes from a Hungarian background.
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Post Posted: Sat, Nov 21 2009, 2:50 pm       Post subject: re: Mezinka Dance
Never heard of this. Dh and I are both onlies and bh no one did this.
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