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Why we don't question Hashem!



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jewgal84




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 15 2007, 2:11 pm
So many times we are faced with challenges and stories that we don't understand, we're always questioning, Hashem, why?

Check this out let me know what you think:

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brooklyn




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 15 2007, 2:41 pm
Very cool video. It shows how one seemingly random act can have profound effects on countless numbers of people. Also it shows how people are so quick to react and assume the worst in people without verifying facts first.
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shanie5




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 15 2007, 2:58 pm
and that changing one thing will not always be the best thing to do.
and we must run before we try to fix all the ills in the world.

I enjoyed it, thanx for sharing.
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amother


 

Post Thu, Mar 15 2007, 3:47 pm
For a Dummy amongst us (moi), can you please clarify what is going on and why this shows us not to question Hashem? Please be as specific as possible. 8)
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shanie5




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 15 2007, 4:11 pm
look what happened when he stopped the guy on the bike from getting hit by a car. it looked simple enuf to move the ball in a different direction, and then what happened? each situation got worse until the last one. it may seem to us that just move the ball and all will be well, so "I can do that".
even at the very end, to keep the girl happy he 'rewound'. he ran away then cuz if he didnt, he would just have to keep opening up his case a riwinding and rewinding......
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greenfire




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 15 2007, 4:19 pm
It actually disturbed me - but I cannot pin point why -
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PinkandYellow




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Mar 15 2007, 4:49 pm
amother wrote:
For a Dummy amongst us (moi), can you please clarify what is going on and why this shows us not to question Hashem? Please be as specific as possible. 8)


make that dummies, bec I also didn't get it. I mean, I understood what was happening, but thought it was strange, and def don't see what it has to do with Hashem and questioning him.
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Tefila




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Mar 16 2007, 12:25 am
Greenfire I too find it disturbing, and moshe davids mom I too can't understand the no questioning part Confused
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amother


 

Post Fri, Mar 16 2007, 12:53 am
greenfire wrote:
It actually disturbed me - but I cannot pin point why -


possibly, cuz the guy was playing G-d?

What I think it is showing us, is that Hashem has a reason for everything. How many times do we wish things could have gone differently, but we would never know if differently would mean better or worse. When the guy changed the directon of the ball, things were alot worse then a guy being hit by a car
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Purple Hug Bunny




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Mar 16 2007, 1:44 am
the whole thing was very confusing, I didnt know what was going on there.
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HindaRochel




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Mar 16 2007, 4:12 am
What I want to know is where he was thrown out of? Or was he dropped down for a specific purpose? Or what?

Anyway, it seems to me there are a number of interpretations. The end situation could be what was meant to be, and the little girl is just going to have to deal with her loss (notice, he just puts the doll back in her hand, doesn't stop the process which caused the doll to fall. He just doesn't want to see it happen.

Who knows? He could have solved the whole thing by having whoever packed the bag put the ball down at the bottom of the bag, or bang against something and stop rolling before it moved to far.
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healthymama




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Mar 16 2007, 12:34 pm
This video is a good example of trying to understand G-d on our terms. Do you really think Hashem could not arrange for all of that to not have happened without any consequences to others? Of course He can. He also doesn't need a bunch of trial and errors to do so.
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jewgal84




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Mar 16 2007, 12:49 pm
Like most posters wrote, the DJ in the video kept trying to make the situation better and kept on messing up other ppl.

He came to terms with that he is not the one in charge, and no matter how many times he tries to fix it- something else seems to happen.

What does it have to do with Hashem-simple.

Instead of wondering why everything happens, instead of questioning Hashem-know that He's the one in charge and although we can't reason His doing, everything has it's purpose.
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amother


 

Post Fri, Mar 16 2007, 1:15 pm
"Instead of wondering why everything happens, instead of questioning Hashem-know that He's the one in charge and although we can't reason His doing, everything has it's purpose."


how would you explain this logic to a homeless person? im sure most homeless people would be quite angry at G-d. you can say it must of been their fault in some way, but lets say the person did everything he could to keep a job, home, family, prayed to G-d every day believed that everything comes from above, and then bam homeless, now what? im sure there is some sort of purpose for it but I cant imagine that a homeless person is sitting under a bridge in a cold rain thanking G-d for a wonderful life, and not questioning anything, or atleast rationalize it this way. so how would you give them hope or belief and trust in hashem again?
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jewgal84




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Mar 16 2007, 1:47 pm
amother wrote:
"Instead of wondering why everything happens, instead of questioning Hashem-know that He's the one in charge and although we can't reason His doing, everything has it's purpose."


how would you explain this logic to a homeless person? im sure most homeless people would be quite angry at G-d. you can say it must of been their fault in some way, but lets say the person did everything he could to keep a job, home, family, prayed to G-d every day believed that everything comes from above, and then bam homeless, now what? im sure there is some sort of purpose for it but I cant imagine that a homeless person is sitting under a bridge in a cold rain thanking G-d for a wonderful life, and not questioning anything, or atleast rationalize it this way. so how would you give them hope or belief and trust in hashem again?


Even more so- Why do bad things happen to good ppl and vise versa?

These are all good questions- and I was kinda gearing to the more healthier ppl on the forum rather the helpless ppl on the streets.
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jewgal84




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Mar 16 2007, 1:52 pm
Here's something inspirational that I read last week off crownheights.info:

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When I Wanted You Did Not - By Simon Jacobson

Today I attended a tragic funeral. All funerals are tragic, but some appear worse than others. Especially when a beautiful man, 61 years old, is killed by a drunken driver, leaving a grieving wife, ten children and countless relatives and friends traumatized.

Every tragic death reminds us (or should remind us) of all other senseless losses – and unbearable pain – beknownst or unbeknownst to us. How many broken hearts are crying around the world at this very moment? How do we respond to the millions of tears shed and the piercing screams echoing through the corridors of history?

The timeless question – why? why do terrible things happen to good people? – resurfaces its naked head in these timely moments of agony.

The death of an individual evokes the memory of all deaths from the beginning of time.

In difficult times like these, we have no one where to turn but to the eternal strength we glean from those that faced the abyss before us.

None other than the great Moses confronts G-d with this greatest of challenges in this week’s Torah portion. Actually, the story begins earlier when Moses first “meets” G-d at the burning bush.

In perhaps the most dramatic episode in the entire Torah, this week’s portion recounts the intimate dialogue between Moses and G-d, as Moses implores that the Almighty forgive the Jewish people for their terrible sin of building and worshipping the Golden Calf. (See The Face of G-d for a more elaborate discussion on the topic).

As Moses attempts to elicit the Divine compassion, he asks G-d “I beg you, please show me Your Glory.” G-d rejects Moses with the memorable words: “You cannot see My face, for no man shall see Me and live” (Exodus 33:18;20).

A strange Talmud explains that G-d rejected Moses’ request because of an earlier event. When G-d appeared to Moses at the burning bush, Moses refused to look, as it says, “And Moses hid his face, for he feared to look upon G-d” (Exodus 3:6). “Now that you want to see My Face,” G-d said, “I am not willing to show it to you.” “When I wanted you didn’t want; now when you want, I don’t want.” (Berachot 7a).

The Midrash elaborates: “Moses did not act accordingly by hiding his face. Had he not hidden his face G-d would have revealed to Moses what is above and what is below, what was and what will be in the future. Finally, when Moses did request to see the Divine face, G-d informed him that ‘no man shall see me and live.’ When I wanted, you didn't want, and now that you want, I don't want” (Shemot Rabba 3:1. 45:5).

What is the meaning behind G-d’s bizarre reaction? It’s impossible to say that G-d was being “petty” and angrily getting even with Moses?! Either Moses deserved to see the Divine face or he doesn’t deserve to see it? Why would it be dependent on Moses’ not wanting to see G-d’s face at the burning bush?

Indeed, a second opinion in the Talmud and Midrash holds that Moses was honoring G-d by not looking at His face, and he was subsequently rewarded for his respect.

Additionally, the verse de facto suggests that Moses could not see G-d’s face because of an objective reason – “no man can see the Divine face and live.” The Talmud is implying that had Moses chosen to look at G-d’s face in the burning bush he now would be able to see the Divine Face and live.

And finally, why indeed did Moses not want to look at G-d’s face in the burning bush? And now he suddenly developed a craving to do so?

Clearly, the burning bush and G-d’s face in the bush is a major event, which requires deeper examination.

Let’s read the verse closely: “G-d's angel appeared to in the heart of a fire, in the middle of a thorn-bush. As he looked, realized that the bush was burning, but was not being consumed. Moses said , 'I must go over there and investigate this great phenomenon. Why doesn't the bush burn?' When G-d saw that was going to investigate, He called to him from the middle of the bush. 'Moses, Moses!' He said. 'Yes,' replied . 'Do not come any closer,' said [G-d]. 'Take your shoes off your feet. The place upon which you are standing is holy ground… Moses hid his face, since he was afraid to look at the Divine. G-d said, 'I have indeed seen the suffering of My people in Egypt. I have heard how they cry out because of what their slave-drivers , and I am aware of their pain. I have come down to rescue them from Egypt's power. I will bring them out of that land, to a good, spacious land, to a land flowing with milk and honey” (Exodus 3:2-8).

G-d’s words from within the burning bush – “I have indeed seen the suffering of My people…I have heard how they cry out” – explains why G-d appeared, of all places, in a burning thorn-bush. Had G-d appeared in, say, a handsome fruit tree, Moses would have challenged G-d and asked: “It’s very nice that you appear in beauty, but do you also feel our human pain?! You want me to challenge the depraved Pharaoh and insist that he stop the genocide and release the enslaved Jews. But everyone will ask ‘where is G-d in all our suffering. Maybe G-d exists only in good times but not in bad ones’. Perhaps you don’t have the power to confront evil’.”

To pre-empt these fundamental questions, G-d appeared in the lowly thorn-bush in order to demonstrate that “I am with you in your pain and suffering” (see Rashi. Tanchuma 14), and that there is no place devoid of the Divine (Mechilta. Shemot Rabba 1:9. Torat Shlomo on the verse).

And now, G-d wanted to show Moses the deeper mystery of good and evil, life and death – “what is above and what is below, what was and what will be.”

But Moses did not want to see G-d’s face in the Holocaust. He did not want to “understand” G-d’s “reasoning” for allowing the death of millions of innocent children. He wasn’t willing to face the ultimate paradox and “hear” Divine explanations for human suffering. “He feared to look upon G-d” when he saw the lives being consumed by the burning bush, even as the bush itself was not being consumed. Moses “hid his face” and just wanted to cry.

But then time passed and things changed. G-d lived up to His promise and delivered the Jews from the clutches of their Egyptian tormentors. G-d demonstrated that He indeed was with together with the people in their suffering, and finally redeemed them through His chosen leader, Moses.

Things seemed to be going very well. Following the Exodus, Moses led the Jewish nation to Sinai, where they experienced the greatest revelation in history: The giving of the Divine mandate to the human race. But then the tide turned again. While Moses was relishing in the Divine delights atop Sinai, the people below built and worshipped the Golden Calf. This time the catastrophe did not come at the hands of the Egyptians, but by fault of the Jews themselves.

Moses, descending from the mountain, realized the high stakes: How can he elicit G-d’s compassion in the face of such a grave crime? How can he offer the flawed human being hope after a great fall? Moses knew that now he needed to return to the “burning bush,” the place where good and evil meet, where joy and suffering converge – the place where the Divine can be found in the darkest corners of existence. He understood that only this impenetrable place contained the answer to solve the ultimate paradox: How to repent from sin; how to heal from wounds – how the “bush can burn and not be consumed” – the power of Teshuvah. [By breaking the tablets Moses also demonstrated how the break itself becomes part of the Divine healing process – see The Roots of Trauma].

Moses marched back up the mountain to confront G-d. Moses had matured to a point where he was now ready to see G-d’s face. He now appreciated the need to enter into the inner sanctum, into the Divine mystery of human suffering, and wanted to “see” the Divine face in order to elicit the strength necessary to endure distress for generations to come.

Moses’ new level of awareness was made possible also by the fact that in the interim Moses had another experience on Sinai that empowered him with the ability to face death – an episode related to an additional, special chapter we read this Shabbat Parah. The Midrash explains that when G-d was teaching Moses the methods of purification from all forms of defilement, Moses was shocked “How can one be purified from the impurity of death?” “At that moment, Moses’ face turned pale.” When they reached the section of the red heifer , G-d said to Moses: “Now I will give you the answer,” and proceeded with the mitzvah of purification from the impurity of death. What Moses exactly learned was elaborated upon in a previous column, but we know from this that Moses had achieved a heightened state of awareness about the mysteries of life and death.

So at this point, recognizing the need to heal from the “death” brought upon by the Golden Calf, Moses implored of G-d “I beg you, show me Your face.” As the Talmud explains that Moses was plagued by the timeless question why the good suffer and the wicked prosper (Berachot ibid).

And here G-d revealed to Moses one of the most profound secrets of all: “I show you My face not in pleasure, but in the burning bush – in pain and suffering. I show you My face not when you want to see it, but when I want you to see it.”

“When I wanted you didn’t want; now when you want, I don’t want.” G-d was not “getting even” with Moses; He was baring His Essence and telling Moses “I want a partner. I cannot show you my face if you do not partner with me. Had you looked at me when I wanted to show you My face, even though it was in pain, then you would have joined Me in the mysterious journey of grief and joy, and you would be able to see My face and gather strength. You cannot come and expect to see My face on your terms – when you like it. You have to respect the moment when I want to show it to you.”

But the story doesn’t end here. After all is said and done, G-d did indeed reveal to Moses the secrets of His inner personality. “I will make all My good pass before you, and reveal the Divine Name in your presence… you cannot see my face, because no man can see me and live, I have a special place where you can stand on the rocky mountain. When My Glory passes by, I will place you in a crevice in the mountain, placing My hand over you until I pass by. I will then remove My hand and you will see My ‘back,’ and My face you will not see” (Exodus 33:19-23).

Moreover, commentaries explain that G-d finally showed Moses His face as well. The verse is to be read as follows: “You will see My ‘back’ and My face you will not see,” you will see my face only by not looking (see Panim Yafot on the verse). Not when you want to see it on your terms, but when I want you to see it…

... pause …

When we face unfathomable suffering, we are not expected to be better than Moses. We too close our eyes and just weep.

Maybe it takes a G-d to witness so much pain and be able to take it. We just want to be human… We don’t want to look at G-d’s face in such moments. It’s too terrifying.

Yet, whether we like it or not, G-d wants us to partner with Him. “Okay,” we say, “but it doesn’t come easy.” And from time to time, perhaps more often than not, we cry out in our own vulnerable moments – something G-d can surely forgive – that we just want some peace and quiet.

Today we were touched by the mystery of tragedy.

How many more bushes have to be burned before the Divine presence is revealed?

Reprinted with permission from www.meaningfullife.com


Posted By - Webby on 11/03/07 at 07:15
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