Creative cooking / dough help

Moonlight

Wed, Nov 14 2018, 3:55 am

So I have this idea I want to try but need a little help.
I want to make a jelly roll style thing with ground meat in the middle. I have done this with pizza - I got the recipe here on imamother. I have done this with meat in puff pastry as well.
My problem is I don't want to use puff pastry for health reasons - I rather make a dough from scratch. But I'm scared my pizza dough would become too hard/burn in the hour that the meat needs to cook.
Advice? Different dough recipe that would work with meat and need to cook a full hour? Do I add something to my pizza dough?

FranticFrummie

Wed, Nov 14 2018, 4:16 am

Can you cook the meat first, at least halfway through? That way the roll won't be in the oven so long.

Do you have a recipe for a non-sweet pie crust? A flaky pie crust would be yummy.

ra_mom

Wed, Nov 14 2018, 4:20 am

You can make a pastry dough without margarine
https://www.joyofkosher.com/re.....ough/

bigsis144

Wed, Nov 14 2018, 4:28 am

I think what you’re describing is a Stromboli?

Maybe look for recipes for that online, though I assume most will mix meat/cheese in the filling.

egam

Wed, Nov 14 2018, 4:51 am

You have to cook meat first. I’ve made pulled beef babka in the past. I’m sure it will work with ground beef as well.

Moonlight

Wed, Nov 14 2018, 5:40 am

Wow thanks
Now I'm wondering if I should throw my ground meat in yhe crockpot before I go to work so it is cooked when I get home and can make the dough then. Or will it be overcooked?

ra_mom

Wed, Nov 14 2018, 6:08 am

Moonlight wrote:

Wow thanks
Now I'm wondering if I should throw my ground meat in yhe crockpot before I go to work so it is cooked when I get home and can make the dough then. Or will it be overcooked?

Doesn't come out well this way.

esther11

Wed, Nov 14 2018, 6:11 am

I’ve made meat knishes using dough recipe from potato knishes. Make the dough, mix some flavorings into the raw chopped meat, spread on dough and roll it up like a jelly roll, cut some slits/vents in to top, bake until golden brown. Absolutely delicious 😋

If you want an exact recipe let me know.

PinkFridge

Wed, Nov 14 2018, 6:22 am

My knish recipe calls for sauteing onion, mixing in meat, some cooked rice or potato (potato makes it fluffier), egg, seasoning including IMO the don't miss one: chili powder.
And just use a knish dough recipe. My go-to has shortening but there are plenty with oil.
Oh, and if the meat is fresh, you can prep it raw and bake it when needed just starting a little earlier. It's absolutely as good.

Moonlight

Wed, Nov 14 2018, 8:20 am

esther11 wrote:

That would be so appreciated

esther11

Wed, Nov 14 2018, 8:24 am

Dough:

1 egg

½ c oil

½ water

1 t baking powder

1/8 t baking powder

3-4 T sugar

½ t salt

2 ½ c flour (+ as needed)

Filling:

1 lb chopped meat

1 egg

1 lg onion, sautéed

2 T oil

2 T ketchup

1 T mustard

1 t salt

Pepper

Onion powder

Garlic powder

Roll out dough , spread on filling, roll. (I usually make two logs/rolls with this recipe)

Egg and add shallow slices about 1 inch apart

Bake @ 350, 40-45 min until golden brown.

Best when served warm with mushroom sauce.

PinkFridge

Wed, Nov 14 2018, 8:36 am

esther11 wrote:

Dough:

1 egg

½ c oil

½ water

1 t baking powder

1/8 t baking powder

3-4 T sugar

½ t salt

2 ½ c flour (+ as needed)

.

Looks delicious.
But is sugar necessary for the dough?

Chickpea

Wed, Nov 14 2018, 11:25 am

esther11 wrote:

This recipe looks amazing. How thick should the dough be once it's rolled out?

Moonlight

Wed, Nov 14 2018, 12:48 pm

esther11 wrote:

Oh I am making this right now but you put baking powder twice