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There was no violence on that Elal shabbos flight



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salt




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Nov 19 2018, 11:18 pm
The video clip shown by secular channel 10 in Israel, of orthodox Jews acting violently toward the aircraft staff was a scam. There was no violence.
There were 2 videos super-imposed, one of people in the plane, and another video of shouting voices.
Channel 10 admits it was a 'technical error'.

This is what I could find about it in English:

https://hamodia.com/2018/11/19.....-002/
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BadTichelDay




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Nov 25 2018, 2:38 am
Arutz 7 has an article about it today:
http://www.israelnationalnews......55210

I wouldn't have thought that Channel 10 has the nerve to manipulate the public like that. But there you go. Disgusting. I also had first believed the story of the "riot" and condemned the "rioters"...
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PinkFridge




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Nov 25 2018, 7:02 am
https://www.tabletmag.com/jewi.....z7Evg
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mfb




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Nov 25 2018, 7:07 am
The yeshiva world posted this mid last week.
https://www.theyeshivaworld.co......html
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groisamomma




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Nov 25 2018, 7:14 am
I hope Rabbi Sorotzkin follows through with the boycott. Disgusting.

(If this was America, the Democrats would be calling for the flight attendant to lose her job, and make a ruckus until she does. Too bad the Israelis are more civilized than half of us Americans.)
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debsey




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Nov 25 2018, 7:42 am
I'd like to see the Forward and all the other mags that rushed to condemn write an article (not a two sentence retraction) about this. And maybe, a self-focused analysis of why there was no fact checking?
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leah233




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Nov 25 2018, 9:31 am
debsey wrote:
I'd like to see the Forward and all the other mags that rushed to condemn write an article (not a two sentence retraction) about this. And maybe, a self-focused analysis of why there was no fact checking?



Neither are going to happen.

For the same reason they didn't do any fact checking to begin with.
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debsey




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Nov 25 2018, 11:49 am
leah233 wrote:
Neither are going to happen.

For the same reason they didn't do any fact checking to begin with.
call me a cockeyed optimist.....
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Cheiny




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Nov 25 2018, 12:27 pm
BadTichelDay wrote:
Arutz 7 has an article about it today:
http://www.israelnationalnews......55210

I wouldn't have thought that Channel 10 has the nerve to manipulate the public like that. But there you go. Disgusting. I also had first believed the story of the "riot" and condemned the "rioters"...


Which is exactly why you’re not allowed to accept lashon hara as fact, even if it’s on a “frum site.” Someone here started a thread about this story when it first came out, with unsubstantiated accusations about the frum passengers. She posted comments assuming the malicious gossip was true. How about we hold off on the assumptions of guilt before there’s any proof (or not).
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Cheiny




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Nov 25 2018, 12:29 pm
groisamomma wrote:
I hope Rabbi Sorotzkin follows through with the boycott. Disgusting.

(If this was America, the Democrats would be calling for the flight attendant to lose her job, and make a ruckus until she does. Too bad the Israelis are more civilized than half of us Americans.)


I hope so too, but unfortunately El Al has almost a monopoly on flights to and from Israel and I don’t think most people will want to be inconvenienced by having to fly with another airline which does not have the same level of security, which I know from the inside are not as tight.
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