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amother
Salmon
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Fri, Dec 14 2018, 10:17 am
I’m embarrassed to ask because clearly I’m missing something... but why does imamother change the name J*sus to Yoshke? Is it bad to write J*sus and I never knew?
I’m legitimately embarrassed to ask, please be kind!
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amother
Wheat
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Fri, Dec 14 2018, 10:19 am
He caused a lot of trouble for us. Some people prefer not to say his name.
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icedcoffee
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Fri, Dec 14 2018, 10:26 am
I wonder if there have been issues of proselytizing in the past? I'm the moderator of a large Jewish community (30k+) and it seems like every day there is a thread I need to delete urging us that Christianity is the truth and we should repent blahblah.
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amother
Salmon
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Fri, Dec 14 2018, 10:41 am
Thank you for those replies.
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simcha2
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Fri, Dec 14 2018, 10:54 am
I'm a believer that not naming makes it a bigger deal.
We say Haman, Antiochus and Hitler who all made bigger trouble for us.
I don't get it.
I understand not saying Chr*st as that is Latin for "savior". But think not saying J*sus is inconsistent.
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amother
Salmon
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Fri, Dec 14 2018, 10:57 am
simcha2 wrote: | I'm a believer that not naming makes it a bigger deal.
We say Haman, Antiochus and Hitler who all made bigger trouble for us.
I don't get it.
I understand not saying Chr*st as that is Latin for "savior". But think not saying J*sus is inconsistent. |
That was my feeling as well!
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sequoia
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Fri, Dec 14 2018, 11:00 am
Not to mention it’s a normal Latino name.
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watergirl
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Fri, Dec 14 2018, 11:03 am
I think the reason is to avoid it coming up in searches and attracting J for J people.
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zaq
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Fri, Dec 14 2018, 11:29 am
Because observant Jews do not mention false gods by name, and that man is worshipped by Christians as G-d in human form. Extremely scrupulous people won't even write the word "Christian" because it contains his appellation as a messiah, but write instead Xian. Since we in the West tend not to have much interaction with followers of pagan gods, we don't have standard aliases for the objects of their worship, though we probably should.
Personally I never liked the term "Yoshke". It sounds too much like an affectionate diminutive for Yehoshua. In ivrit we call him "oto ha-ish", or "that man". I like that. Why mention his name at all?
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chicco
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Fri, Dec 14 2018, 1:59 pm
The Gemara calls him Yayshu, with is an acronym for for yemach shemo vzichro. It's pretty ironic that his devoted followers call him the Anglo version of that.
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simcha2
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Fri, Dec 14 2018, 2:20 pm
chicco wrote: | The Gemara calls him Yayshu, with is an acronym for for yemach shemo vzichro. It's pretty ironic that his devoted followers call him the Anglo version of that. |
Not to get into a whole discussion on the etymology of J*sus Erev Shabbos, but that's not where the Anglo version comes from. It is via the Greek of ישוע.
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watergirl
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Fri, Dec 14 2018, 2:29 pm
Better Yoshke than “You Know Who” or “He Who Must Not Be Named”.
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simcha2
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Fri, Dec 14 2018, 2:41 pm
watergirl wrote: | Better Yoshke than “You Know Who” or “He Who Must Not Be Named”. |
LOL
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FranticFrummie
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Sat, Dec 15 2018, 10:48 am
Cheese n' Rice! (say it out loud, you'll get it.)
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Iymnok
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Sat, Dec 15 2018, 2:09 pm
FranticFrummie wrote: | Cheese n' Rice! (say it out loud, you'll get it.) |
Have you heard my father saying cheese sauce?
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