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Mon, Mar 11 2019, 5:57 pm
yksraya wrote: | From what I've heard/read or wtvr the source was, mashiach will come so soon, like suddenly before we know it he will be here. We might not even have time to change. We will run with whatever it is we are wearing. Just like there was no time to bake the bread when we left miztrayim and it turned into matza... |
This.
And that's why it doesn't make sense to prepare what you will wear.
On the contrary, one should always be ready to greet him. Whatever you wear should always be appropriately tznius because we never know when he will show up. And when he shows up, we will not stop to change/pack, etc. but just GO! as is.
(At least this is how I've learned it with my teachers stressing the always-tznius part because who wants to be embarrassed by their clothes when he comes?)
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Mon, Mar 11 2019, 6:04 pm
The Shabbos before Tisha B'Av my daughter picked out a Shabbos dress to wear on Tisha b'Av for when mashiach came and the day would be a yom tov. The next day she commented that she was said that he didn't come.
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Mon, Mar 11 2019, 7:27 pm
That’s why we should always dress bitzniut? Because we’ll be embarrassed to be caught out when Mashiach comes? Why does this sound to me like really bad reasoning? I’d also be embarrassed to be caught in my painting outfit or my Pesach cleaning garb or my gardening gear (or as DrMom suggests, pajamas) but I hardly think that’s reason for me to wear a dressy suit to scrub the kitchen floor.
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Mon, Mar 11 2019, 8:01 pm
SuperWify wrote: | I know of a special group of girls- teenagers- who sleep in a shell and comfortable skirt so if mashiach will come on the middle of the night they will be ready. |
Seriously? I sleep in”real”clothes so in case I ch”v have to get out of the house fast in the middle of the night, I’m already dressed and decent. Seconds count in a fire and I do NOT want to ch”v give my life for tznius. I’d much rather be alive and on the lecture circuit telling people that I survived because with G-d’s help I got out fast.
Needless to say I’d rather not have to flee at all, but I have on several different occasions in several different places had to evacuate when the fire alarm went off in the middle of the night. The first time I hadn’t yet called it a day and was still in street clothes, but some people were in nightwear and very embarrassed. Then and there I decided always to sleep in something I would be ok about being seen in in public. I was grateful for that policy when that scenario played again...and yet again. .
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Mon, Mar 11 2019, 8:38 pm
DrMom wrote: | So.. we should not set aside special clothes for Moshiach; we should always wear Moshiach-ready clothing. We should sleep in them too. |
I think it was rav nosson wochtfogel zt’l who kept a packed suitcase for mashisch by his bed. He once heard a noise at night and ran with the suitcase to greet mashiach.
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Tue, Mar 12 2019, 5:48 am
ShishKabob wrote: | ! It's like buying the baby carriage before being blessed with children |
Most frum people davka DON’T do this, and if they do, they don’t keep it in their own home. And they sure as shootin’ don’t buy baby gear before they’re confirmed pregnant.
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Tue, Mar 12 2019, 5:52 am
amother wrote: | My mother in law has a dress that she never wears. She's saving it for when mashiach comes |
Are you sure she’s not being satirical? Because that’s a stock wiseguy answer to “what are you waiting for?” or “when are you going to _______?”
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Tue, Mar 12 2019, 8:05 am
zaq wrote: | Most frum people davka DON’T do this, and if they do, they don’t keep it in their own home. And they sure as shootin’ don’t buy baby gear before they’re confirmed pregnant. |
This refers to a very well known Chassidic story of 2 couples that went to entreat a Rebbe to bless them with children. One couple was so certain about the Rebbe's brocha that they went out and purchased a baby carriage, to anticipate the simcha. The other couple didn't have such certainty in the brocha. What happened was that the couple that bought the carriage was blessed with a child and the other couple wasn't. The point is basically that the belief gives the power to the brocha. I was referring to that story in particular, not the fact that we generally don't prepare an entire nursery before the baby is born.
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Sat, Apr 13 2024, 10:06 pm
It might be time to start thinking about this!
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Sun, Apr 14 2024, 12:18 am
Thank you for bumping, this thread gave me the chills - klal Yisroel is so beautiful!
The Vilna Gaon is known to have said "When the Russians reach Turkey, you can already put on your Shabbos clothes to greet Mashiach!"
The practical parts about how things will play out, we don't know. But it's beautiful to have something prepared (or to have in mind which outfit you'd quickly grab out of your closet) - it just shows how excited we are.
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Sun, Apr 14 2024, 12:33 am
mudpies wrote: | Thank you for bumping, this thread gave me the chills - klal Yisroel is so beautiful!
The Vilna Gaon is known to have said "When the Russians reach Turkey, you can already put on your Shabbos clothes to greet Mashiach!"
The practical parts about how things will play out, we don't know. But it's beautiful to have something prepared (or to have in mind which outfit you'd quickly grab out of your closet) - it just shows how excited we are. |
The Vilna Gaon also tried coming to Eretz Yisrael. He himself did not make it, but many of his disciples did.
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