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Effective Alternative Remedies for Chronic Ear Infections
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Iymnok




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, May 28 2019, 4:16 am
It’s olive oil, garlic and mullein (a type of flower). It is available in a bottle with a dropper in health stores.
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amother
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Post Tue, May 28 2019, 8:51 am
For infections I agree with those who said to put garlic oil or oil of oregano behind the ear lobes. They can be bought in health food stores.

Another option is peroxide, it pulls out infection. Put till you stop seeing it bubbling. But these are only good if the ear isn’t perforated.

To prevent it becoming infected as soon as you see a cold coming which brings fluid to build up in the ear is to put:
2 oz lukewarm water
1 tsp salt
1/4 tsp baking soda (to keep fresh and not develop bacteria in the water)
Can keep it in bottle or container and put 2-3 times a day for a few days or till it clears up. The salt water drains the fluid and also helps sooth the pain.
For bad colds with green noses you can also squirt into nose and it pulls out infection/cold.

I wanted to avoid tubes and surgery for my baby after him constantly getting ear infections and the salt water was a lifesaver until he outgrew (as they mature the angle of the ear canals shift and drains better on its own)the constant fluid in ears and b”h it prevented him from having hearing and Speech delays (which we were warned abt) We did go for hearing tests and it wasn’t perfect all the time but I was ontop of keeping the fluid down.

B”h he’s older now and if he ever complains of his ears bothering him (which is rarely) I still do the salt water for a week or two and it clears up. This prevented it from getting infected.
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PinkFridge




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, May 28 2019, 9:04 am
amother [ Bronze ] wrote:
Just curious if any imas here ever had an ear infection? The pain is beyond excruciating. I understand that u want to do natural stuff.... But pls dont just do garlic oil. At least give Tylenol for pain. (I had one myself...it's really painful)
And of ur baby or kid fails hearing test, pls pls do tubes. My 8 month old is getting tubes Wednesday morning. Of course I'm nervous cuz he is so young, but he failed his hearing test. He had 10 ear infections in 7 months that came alonng with wheezing and other breathing issues)


Yes! I had an ear infection as an adult. It was actually an outer ear infection vs. what I had as a kid (and I came close to busted eardrums) but it was still incredibly painful. I remember sleeping in a recliner that night.
I think we need to know the appropriate times to pursue the modalities - alternative, complementary, allopathic, combination of the last two.
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amother
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Post Tue, May 28 2019, 9:08 am
Look into warm salt in a sock placed over the ear.
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aliavi




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, May 28 2019, 9:13 am
I didn’t read the whole thread. It may be allergies causing fluid in the ear. Seasonal allergies or food allergies. Bleach can be a major irritant to the respiratory system.

Tubes are a major surgery and can fall out easily. We did both natural and surgery routes.
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ShishKabob




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, May 28 2019, 11:22 am
Thank you all so much for your input. I really appreciate it.
How do I know if the ear is perforated? If something oozes out of it?
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happyness




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, May 28 2019, 10:30 pm
PinkFridge wrote:
Yes! I had an ear infection as an adult. It was actually an outer ear infection vs. what I had as a kid (and I came close to busted eardrums) but it was still incredibly painful. I remember sleeping in a recliner that night.
I think we need to know the appropriate times to pursue the modalities - alternative, complementary, allopathic, combination of the last two.


Beautiful. I remember reading a stunning article in the Ami by Sarah Shapiro, in which she detailed her experience with Apitherapy. I wish I had clipped it. She ended off with something to the effect of how all these alternatives have value..but at the end of the day Hashem decides what heals.

As an aside, I am really amazed at those that almost got tubes and then the garlic...or the drops...or the panto c ...or the flushing noses and raised beds...worked! I tried theM ALL!! I guess it was bashert for my kids to get tubes.
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happyness




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, May 28 2019, 10:32 pm
aliavi wrote:
I didn’t read the whole thread. It may be allergies causing fluid in the ear. Seasonal allergies or food allergies. Bleach can be a major irritant to the respiratory system.

Tubes are a major surgery and can fall out easily. We did both natural and surgery routes.


I am going to have to disagree with you. We did tubes twice, and it is not a major surgery at all.
Yes, there is anesthesia and all, but it's a painless 15 minute procedure.
Our daughter had a hemangioma on her neck removed due to its' ulcerating from her burn..now that was definitely more of a serious surgery, but still not major.
Major surgery is skin grafting, hip replacement, and much more serious stuff, we should never know of.
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amother
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Post Tue, May 28 2019, 10:34 pm
https://www.webmd.com/parentin.....ins#1

Anesthesia May Harm Children's Brains
Study: Anesthesia Before Age 3 Linked to Later Mental Problems

By Brenda Goodman, MA
FROM THE WEBMD ARCHIVES
Aug. 20, 2012 -- A new study is raising fresh concerns about the use of general anesthesia in young children.

Recent studies have suggested that anesthetic drugs may increase the risk for learning disabilities and behavioral problems such as attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), but only in kids who are exposed to the drugs several times.

The new study, which is published in the journal Pediatrics, links even a single dose of anesthesia to later harm.

However, the study does not prove that anesthesia is the cause.

"I don't want to scare parents," says researcher Lena S. Sun, MD, a pediatric anesthesiologist at Columbia University Medical Center in New York.

"If children need to have surgery, you need to weigh all the risks and all the benefits in terms of what you need to do," Sun says.

Anesthesia Study
The new study is based on data from nearly 2,900 children in Australia followed by researchers since before they were born.

Parents reported that 321 children in the study had medical procedures that required general anesthesia before age 3. The other 2,287 children weren't exposed to the drugs.

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When the children were 10, researchers tested how well they could learn, think, remember, reason, and use language. Doctors also asked questions about their behavior and any problems like depression or aggression.

Kids who were given anesthesia before age 3 were more likely to have learning problems by age 10 than other children.

Children who got anesthesia as toddlers, for example, weren't able to use language as well as their peers. They also had more trouble solving problems.

There could be other explanations. Children who need surgery early in life might have other medical conditions that hurt their brain development in some way.

But the researchers say they don't think that's the case since most procedures performed in the study were minor. Those included common childhood surgeries including inserting ear tubes to help kids with chronic ear infections, hernia repairs, circumcisions, removing a child's tonsils, and dental procedures.


Even after accounting for things that are known to have an impact on brain development, such as mom's education, low birth weight, and household income, exposure to anesthesia was still linked to the likelihood that a child would have difficulty using language.

Children exposed to anesthesia were more than twice as likely to have a language disability. In particular, it increased the chance that a child would have trouble listening to and remembering spoken words.

Anesthesia was also tied to a 73% increased chance that a child would have trouble with abstract reasoning. Multiple exposures to anesthesia further raised a child's risk for problems.

The researchers found no link between anesthesia and behavioral problems or attention, however.

Unanswered Questions
The study leaves many important questions unanswered.

Because the researchers didn't have access to the children's medical records, they weren't able to tell which drugs were used or how long the procedures lasted.

And the most commonly used drug for anesthesia in children during the study years was halothane, a drug that's since been discontinued.

Newer drugs that have replaced it work in much the same way, so the study findings are probably still relevant, says Randall Flick, MD, a pediatric anesthesiologist at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn.

Even nitrous oxide, which is often used in dental procedures, is a concern, he says.

"Nitrous oxide has its own set of problems in addition to neurotoxicity. Most people in pediatric anesthesia are getting away from using nitrous oxide for any reason," though dentists, he says, haven't made the switch.

"I don't think at this point in time that one can say this is absolutely the anesthesia. It could be that anesthesia is a marker for this type of thing," Sun says.

Other experts who weren't involved in the study agree that it's too early to sound the alarm.

"The study is very well done and is an important study, but we have to be careful about over-interpreting," Flick says.

Flick chairs an FDA committee that's looking into the safety of sedating drugs in children.

After a meeting last April to review the evidence, "It was the consensus of the group that there should be no communication to the American public regarding this concern because the evidence wasn't sufficient to warrant that," Flick says.

The new study wouldn't change that stance, he says.

But Flick admits that it's getting tough to ignore the mounting evidence that's pointing to potential problems.

Research in animals shows that anesthetic drugs can speed up cell death and may keep developing brains from forging important connections between neurons.

Evidence in humans, however, is mixed and less direct.

Advice to Parents
Deciding whether a child should have surgery is always difficult. The risks from anesthesia are something to consider.

But what are the risks, exactly? Experts say that's a question that doesn't have a good answer.

"We don't know whether the problem is a real one, and if it's a real one, we don't know how to avoid it," says Michael Roizen, MD, an anesthesiologist who is chief wellness officer at the Cleveland Clinic, in Ohio.

Roizen also chairs the SmartTots campaign, which is a joint project of the FDA and the International Anesthesia Research Society. SmartTots is funding studies on the safety of anesthesia in kids.

Until more is known, Roizen says parents shouldn't panic.

"If the child needs surgery, there is no way of avoiding [anesthesia] right now," Roizen tells WebMD. "The goal is to have the shortest period of time of anesthesia as possible."

If the procedure is a minor one, parents should work with their child's doctor to see if it can be delayed.

"If it is tubes or tonsils and it can be put off until after age 3, then it should be put off," Roizen says.

Flick says some procedures, such as hernia repairs, can be done with regional anesthesia, which numbs part of the body, as opposed to general anesthesia. There's no evidence suggesting one approach is better than the other.

It's also a good idea to meet with your child's anesthesiologist to ask what drugs may be used. In general, Flick says, "Single, brief anesthetics typically do not cause a problem."

WebMD Health News Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD on August 20, 2012
Sources © 2012 WebMD, LLC. All rights reserved.
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Sunny Days




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, May 30 2019, 2:30 am
Another emerald, I didn’t have patience to read thru entire post about anesthesia. My kid had anesthesia over a dozen times in her 1st yr of life and I know plenty kids that had waaay more and bh no issues. You obviously have to weigh pros and cons to each procedure or medical intervention, but you must remember to take into account child’s quality of life- meaning pain from infections, possibility of antibiotics resistance and potential hearing loss and speech defects.
To disqualify tubes for a light anesthesia procedure is not so warranted imho. Of course it’s nice to try natural remedies and with ear infections they’ve definitely proven effective, but if all else fails or you want to skip the health food store- tubes is a great option, bh helping most kids with fluid/ infection issues.
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BA




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, May 30 2019, 2:41 am
after too many ear infections in my 1.5 year old, and fluid in his ears which was causing mild hearing loss, we allergy tested. he showed up allergic to a few foods. after removing them from his diet, the fluid levels went down, his hearing is normal and no ear infections since. hatzlacha to you!
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happyness




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, May 30 2019, 8:53 am
gamzehyaavor wrote:
Another emerald, I didn’t have patience to read thru entire post about anesthesia. My kid had anesthesia over a dozen times in her 1st yr of life and I know plenty kids that had waaay more and bh no issues. You obviously have to weigh pros and cons to each procedure or medical intervention, but you must remember to take into account child’s quality of life- meaning pain from infections, possibility of antibiotics resistance and potential hearing loss and speech defects.
To disqualify tubes for a light anesthesia procedure is not so warranted imho. Of course it’s nice to try natural remedies and with ear infections they’ve definitely proven effective, but if all else fails or you want to skip the health food store- tubes is a great option, bh helping most kids with fluid/ infection issues.



I started reading that post, and somehow it sounded so similar to the anti-vax rhetoric...

COuld be there are side effects....but exactly as you said, antibiotic resistance, hearing loss, can be so much greater.
As a matter of fact, my older son was on so much meds from constantly being sick (because of his constant ear infections) that he actually grew the superbug in his ear!!! we had to treat him with strong medication to fight that.

So yes, anesthesia is not something we want to give for breakfast lunch and supper.

BUt tubes is still not major surgery.
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amother
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Post Thu, May 30 2019, 9:03 am
delicious wrote:
I started reading that post, and somehow it sounded so similar to the anti-vax rhetoric...

COuld be there are side effects....but exactly as you said, antibiotic resistance, hearing loss, can be so much greater.
As a matter of fact, my older son was on so much meds from constantly being sick (because of his constant ear infections) that he actually grew the superbug in his ear!!! we had to treat him with strong medication to fight that.

So yes, anesthesia is not something we want to give for breakfast lunch and supper.

BUt tubes is still not major surgery.


IF anything questioning the safety or status quo of medical procedures is "anti vax" rhetoric, then why not just shut down any and all scientific research right now, since we've reached nirvana? Doctors have gone from prescribing antibiotics at the drop of a feather to now being careful and deliberate about it now that we've discovered antibiotic resistance. We're always learning new things and improving processes. (In a way, you just gave a gift to the anti vaxxers. You just showed that you are completely unwilling to consider changing the way doctors do anything ever.)

To address the underlying point, studies show that EVEN with minor procedures, anesthesia can be linked to brain damage in children. If your kid needs tubes, great- get tubes. But know that it comes with risks like every medical procedure under the sun and we are constantly discovering new risks, such as this. Might be worth alternative try or two.
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amother
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Post Thu, May 30 2019, 9:36 am
Has your child been checked for tongue tie? It’s a common cause of repeated ear infections. When the tongue is restricted, and the palate takes on a high and narrow shape, the tongue can’t push strongly enough against the roof of the mouth to clear the sinuses (including the ear sinuses) effectively.

Garlic oil drops are great for treating and preventing the infection but they don’t get at the root cause.

You can try some manual lymphatic drainage massage to clear the lymph and ear sinuses- here is a great video on how to do that yourself -https://youtu.be/vAs9uFYvcrk

But to really get to the root of the problem, you need to figure out why the sinuses are not draining well. Could be tongue tie or another myofunctional disorder. Or could be that they’re constantly overworked because of allergies (food or environmental) or other irritants.
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