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corolla
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Tue, Jul 30 2019, 9:00 pm
Can I use challah dough to make Kokosh cake? I don't have the time, patience, or facilities to make two different doughs. Is this possible? Any good filling recipes?
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Blessing1
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Tue, Jul 30 2019, 9:08 pm
It is possible but it's harder to roll out challa dough very thin.
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ectomorph
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Tue, Jul 30 2019, 9:18 pm
I have never been success ful doing it. Better to make garlic knots. Something that uses the dough closer to the way it's intended.
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ddmom
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Tue, Jul 30 2019, 9:41 pm
Sure! I do it all the time!
Not sure why one of the posters find it hard to roll for me it's the same!
Comes out delicious every time!
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ddmom
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Tue, Jul 30 2019, 9:45 pm
I shmear oil on the rolled out dough and either a mix of cinnamon, sugar and x's sugar or cocoa,sugar and x's sugar!
When I'm feeling brave I make a mix with chocolate pudding mix but I don't have exact measurements!
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Blessing1
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Tue, Jul 30 2019, 10:08 pm
Ddmom, I roll my kokosh dough paper thin. That's impossible to do with challa dough.
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corolla
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Tue, Jul 30 2019, 10:20 pm
Blessing1 wrote: | Ddmom, I roll my kokosh dough paper thin. That's impossible to do with challa dough. |
Why is it hard specifically with challah dough?
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Blessing1
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Tue, Jul 30 2019, 10:46 pm
Because challa dough is more rough than a kokosh cake dough. Kokosh cake dough has margarine and more sugar than challa dough. It also has way less yeast.
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ruby slippers
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Tue, Jul 30 2019, 10:52 pm
I do it all the time- I don't get it paper thin, but thin enough- it takes a bit of heaver rolling, but it gets there. I also add a bit more sugar to my recipe to make it sweeter- about 1/4 Cup more and I add a drop more yeast, badiclly the usal measurment, but don't level it off.
After I roll it out I schmear it with oil and have a mixture of sugar, confectioner sugar and cocoa powder, schmear that on the whole thing and start to roll, but with each turn I add more oil and cocoa mixture to the part that does not have any on it. Once its all rolled up create a U shape and twist the dough together.
Good luck- yum!!
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mom2dkay
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Tue, Jul 30 2019, 11:04 pm
I don’t know the halacha, but making a Bracha on the dough might be a problem if the dough will be used for another purpose aside from challah.
Ask your own rav.
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corolla
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Tue, Jul 30 2019, 11:07 pm
mom2dkay wrote: | I don’t know the halacha, but making a Bracha on the dough might be a problem if the dough will be used for another purpose aside from challah.
Ask your own rav. |
A bracha needs to be made regardless of what purpose the dough is being used for, if it's over a certain amount of flour. But I don't use that much anyway, so it shouldn't be a problem.
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Blessing1
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Tue, Jul 30 2019, 11:09 pm
Challa needs to be taken with a bracha of any dough regardless of what it's used for. I think from 5 lbs.
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EsaEinai
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Tue, Jul 30 2019, 11:48 pm
I make this all the time. Shmear oil over the dough. Make a mixture of 1/2 c cocoa powder and 1 c of sugar. Sprinkle over the oil. Roll it up!
You have to do hafrashas challah on 5lb of kokosh cake dough as well...
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mom2mysouls
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Wed, Jul 31 2019, 12:12 am
Blessing1 wrote: | Ddmom, I roll my kokosh dough paper thin. That's impossible to do with challa dough. |
Agree.
You will get kokosh with challah dough, it just won't be as good and thin as the authentic kokosh that uses way more fat. It might also be pretty dry.
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cbsp
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Wed, Jul 31 2019, 2:24 am
corolla wrote: | A bracha needs to be made regardless of what purpose the dough is being used for, if it's over a certain amount of flour. But I don't use that much anyway, so it shouldn't be a problem. |
Yes and no.
If the dough is split (some challah, some cake) then you may have a shaylah.
When I asked my LOR (and it was accidental, there's no way I thought this was even a shaylah) I was told that at long as 5lbs or more was being used for one purpose then I should separate with a brachah. Otherwise it would be without the brachah.
(my intended question was about freezing some of the dough raw - guess what, the psak I got was similar of the same lines)
Bottom line : ask.
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