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Amalia
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Sun, Sep 22 2019, 10:28 am
amother [ Lawngreen ] wrote: | How is it different from calling a Rabbi, Rabbi. I work in a dialysis clinic. One of my patients is a rabbi. I would never dream of calling him David, but rather I always address him as Rabbi Cohen. (Made up name. I did not to violate HIPPA). Rebbitzen Schwartz, is called Rebbitzen Schwartz or Rebbitzen, I would never call her Sarah. Even though neither of them is from my community, been my cholera teacher, or have I ever asked them for either etza or a shailah. They have earned a title of respect. The doctor, put in a tremendous amount of work,very much so has a lot to be proud of, and deserves that respect as well. |
Cholera teacher?
Oy
I agree with your post.
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amother
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Sun, Sep 22 2019, 10:44 am
amother [ Ginger ] wrote: | Would you feel the same if it was a Rabbi? |
Come to think of it, dh has a cousin who's a respected Rav and talmid chachom. If I call with a shaila, and the rebbetzin answers the phone, I'm not allowed to ask to speak with Rav Klein or even Rabbi Klein. She'll give me a 5 minute lecture that I must not consider them family if I insist on being so formal, I should of course ask for Shmuel!
Of course I can't do that, so now, I don't ask for him. If she answers the phone I shmooze with her and wait for her to say, Oh, did you call for Shmuel?
This is the exact opposite situation, where I'm calling a rav in his capacity as rav and seeking his halachic guidance. And yet, they are turning down well deserved kavod. I think it speaks to the character of a person.
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amother
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Sun, Sep 22 2019, 6:56 pm
I'm a physician and I go by Dr., always.
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Indigo
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Sun, Sep 22 2019, 7:18 pm
amother [ OP ] wrote: | Come to think of it, dh has a cousin who's a respected Rav and talmid chachom. If I call with a shaila, and the rebbetzin answers the phone, I'm not allowed to ask to speak with Rav Klein or even Rabbi Klein. She'll give me a 5 minute lecture that I must not consider them family if I insist on being so formal, I should of course ask for Shmuel!
Of course I can't do that, so now, I don't ask for him. If she answers the phone I shmooze with her and wait for her to say, Oh, did you call for Shmuel?
This is the exact opposite situation, where I'm calling a rav in his capacity as rav and seeking his halachic guidance. And yet, they are turning down well deserved kavod. I think it speaks to the character of a person. |
I don't think it speaks to character, its a combo of culture and preference.
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causemommysaid
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Sun, Sep 22 2019, 7:25 pm
amother [ Brown ] wrote: | I'm a physician and I go by Dr., always. |
So if you meet a new neighbor or someone at a shul Kiddush you call yourself doctor?
Do your friends call you doctor?
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Ivory
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Sun, Sep 22 2019, 7:33 pm
amother [ Brown ] wrote: | I'm a physician and I go by Dr., always. |
Interesting
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Brown
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Sun, Sep 22 2019, 8:49 pm
causemommysaid wrote: | So if you meet a new neighbor or someone at a shul Kiddush you call yourself doctor?
Do your friends call you doctor? |
I say, "Hi, I'm Dr Rachel Goldstein." People don't call me doctor unless they were going to call someone Ma'am. Invitations should be addressed (according to me and Emily Post) to me as Dr Goldstein.
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amother
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Sun, Sep 22 2019, 9:17 pm
amother [ Brown ] wrote: | I say, "Hi, I'm Dr Rachel Goldstein." People don't call me doctor unless they were going to call someone Ma'am. Invitations should be addressed (according to me and Emily Post) to me as Dr Goldstein. |
May I ask why? If you're expecting the person, say a neighbor, to address you as Rachel anyway, why is it important to you that they know your profession up front, before even having a conversation?
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amother
Ivory
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Sun, Sep 22 2019, 10:34 pm
amother [ Indigo ] wrote: | I don't think it speaks to character, its a combo of culture and preference. |
I disagree with you . It most definitely speaks to someones character. I cant imagine any humble rav introducing himself as rabbi so and so . I think it says a lot about a person when they introduce themselves by using their name only and not their job title or kavodik position .
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amother
Ivory
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Sun, Sep 22 2019, 10:35 pm
amother [ OP ] wrote: | May I ask why? If you're expecting the person, say a neighbor, to address you as Rachel anyway, why is it important to you that they know your profession up front, before even having a conversation? |
Maybe she expects everyone to call her dr all the time .
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amother
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Sun, Sep 22 2019, 11:26 pm
amother [ Ivory ] wrote: | Maybe she expects everyone to call her dr all the time . |
She said they don't, though, unless they would otherwise call her ma'am. I'm assuming that new neighbors or friends of friends at a kiddush wouldn't otherwise be calling her ma'am.
I don't think there's any reason to do this other than looking to impress people. Which is anyone's right, they did work hard for their degree.
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