Supporting a disposable pan

amother

Sun, Oct 20 2019, 8:02 am

If you use a disposable pan for making kugels do you support the bottom (like it suggests on the label on the pan) by baking it in the oven on a tray or inside a non-disposable pan? If so, does this affect the bake time or how it turns out?
Thanks!

amother

Turquoise

Sun, Oct 20 2019, 8:13 am

I don't use disposables all that often but when I do.... I only put something underneath* if the contents are really heavy or if it's something likely to drip a lot a make a mess of my oven. For a kugel I don't bother.

* the something being a cookie sheet with a lip. Never put a pan inside another pan.

amother

Linen

Sun, Oct 20 2019, 8:14 am

I'm not sure why this would be necessary. Probably wouldn't cook well. Maybe they mean a pan on the rack underneath to 'catch' spills just in case.
Anyways, when I buy from jewish stores, they are so flimsy and often, holding slightly heavy pans from the bottom causes then to dent which leads to holes. I generally use the Costco, more sturdy ones for this reason.

emzod42

Sun, Oct 20 2019, 8:40 am

If it's heavy I put it on a rimmed cookie sheet for my own ease--much easier to put in and out of oven. I'm not too worried about leaking unless it's a pan I washed and reused.

amother

Royalblue

Sun, Oct 20 2019, 8:40 am

amother [ Linen ] wrote:

I'm not sure why this would be necessary.

I can tell you from bitter experience! They can bend and leak the contents...now I'm cleverer and put them on a sheet pan Smile

zaq

Sun, Oct 20 2019, 9:14 am

I usually put small pans regardless of material on a half-sheet jelly roll pan. It’s easier to grab the big tray than a small pan or several small pans. I do the same with bigger foil pans but only if I’m baking pareve, as my jelly roll pans are pareve.

I never paid attention to the effect on baking results, but I doubt that it does much. The bottom MIGHT brown faster because of the conduction through the pan, but I doubt it. The jelly roll pan had to heat up first.

Notsobusy

Sun, Oct 20 2019, 9:31 am

amother [ Turquoise ] wrote:

Why never put a pan inside another pan? I've done it plenty of times with no issues.

amother

Sun, Oct 20 2019, 9:43 am

zaq wrote:

Can you possibly tell me what you mean by, "The bottom MIGHT brown faster because of the conduction through the pan"?

Hashem_Yaazor

Thu, Oct 24 2019, 6:43 am

Notsobusy wrote:

Why never put a pan inside another pan? I've done it plenty of times with no issues.

I do this for meats (heavy items) -- 2 disposable pans. I also found Costco ones are sturdier than the cheapy brands and don't warp just from me looking at them, so I only really need to do this with heavy foods. Regular baking, 1 Costco pan is sufficient. If I have cheapy ones (like round from the "frum" stores), I put it on top of a cookie sheet.