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Corruption in NYS repeal of RE
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amother
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Post Sun, Dec 15 2019, 6:12 am
amother [ OP ] wrote:
The video wasn't anti-vax. It was anti a specific bill that's being pushed through in NJ S2173. The person was pointing out all the amendments to the bill and what the long-term implications are. If this is Youtube censorship (instead of actual user removal), we've got a huge problem. People in this country have a right to express opinions on proposed bills.


Was the video accurate?
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southernbubby




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Dec 15 2019, 6:12 am
amother [ OP ] wrote:
The video wasn't anti-vax. It was anti a specific bill that's being pushed through in NJ S2173. The person was pointing out all the amendments to the bill and what the long-term implications are. If this is Youtube censorship (instead of actual user removal), we've got a huge problem. People in this country have a right to express opinions on proposed bills.


If it was posted by an anti-vax group, that, rather than the content was why it was removed. Sometimes these videos are gateways to the groups that post them.
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amother
Amethyst


 

Post Sun, Dec 15 2019, 6:19 am
amother [ OP ] wrote:
The video wasn't anti-vax. It was anti a specific bill that's being pushed through in NJ S2173. The person was pointing out all the amendments to the bill and what the long-term implications are. If this is Youtube censorship (instead of actual user removal), we've got a huge problem. People in this country have a right to express opinions on proposed bills.

There are no checks and balances in NY anymore. Not since Democrats took control. They got rid of voter ID, are giving services and benefits to illegal aliens, radical bail reform, removal of religious exemption, etc. They dont follow the food stamps guidelines but complain about Trump removing people from food stamps when NY is much stricter with the requirements and are actually the ones who remove people. The NYAG acts like she is the president of the United States and is seriously overstepping her boundaries by suing other states and going after people she hates while completely disregarding the constitution and the fact that other states have sovereignty. Its only going to get worse with all the "progressives" (aka socialists) that have infiltrated the democrat party.

As an aside, NY is also one of the highest taxed state in America but we are in major debt now. Someone wrote this which I thought was interesting so I am copying and pasting it--
Quote:
“A tale of 2 states. New York vs Florida.
I did a little research after a co worker asked me to guess the population of Florida. I said 21 million. The approx # is just over 21 million. Then I was asked to guess the population of NY State. I guessed 40 million. I was shocked to find out the approx # is just over 20 million. The state of Florida has one million more residents that NY State. The state budget of New York State for 2019/2020 is approx $177 billion dollars. The state budget of Florida for 2019/2020 is $91 billion dollars. We are being taxed to death in NY State and the head of the Cuomo Crime family Don Andrew Cuomo has recently announced the State is going to be $6 billion dollars short for next years budget. What’s being done with our money in NY State. Florida has zero income tax while the leftists of NY State are taxing us to death in every which way possible. Where is the money going ?”
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amother
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Post Sun, Dec 15 2019, 6:21 am
amother [ Rose ] wrote:
Was the video accurate?

The video showed the actual text of the bill with someone talking and explaining the effects of those lines, such as the DMV being allowed to consult the DOH regarding one's vaccine status. The speaker was explaining how this is a gateway to requiring adult vaccines in order to get a driver's license. Some comments noted that this won't apply to all people getting a license, only to those who drive for childcare centers.
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amother
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Post Sun, Dec 15 2019, 6:22 am
southernbubby wrote:
If it was posted by an anti-vax group, that, rather than the content was why it was removed. Sometimes these videos are gateways to the groups that post them.

I didn't check who it was posted by, but I got the impression that it was an individual person. There was no face visible in the entire video.
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amother
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Post Sun, Dec 15 2019, 6:25 am
the overreach is very disturbing

a bit off topic, one of the magazines had an article about new law permitting/pushing euthanasia which a frum dr is fighting along with others, a law seems Canada and UK already have with some very scary results.

it was very disturbing and scary very dystopian sounding
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southernbubby




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Dec 15 2019, 6:29 am
amother [ Navy ] wrote:
the overreach is very disturbing

a bit off topic, one of the magazines had an article about new law permitting/pushing euthanasia which a frum dr is fighting along with others, a law seems Canada and UK already have with some very scary results.

it was very disturbing and scary very dystopian sounding


Frum doctors are fighting more than just pulling the plug. Hospitals are encouraging families to spare the patient the pain of medical treatment if it doesn't work out financially for the hospital. NY doesn't have a hospital for long term acute care.
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amother
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Post Sun, Dec 15 2019, 6:30 am
Amethyst amother, I agree with your assessment of the Democrats. They are on a roll, and it's not good for us! The rent-control law, the plastic bag law, the full-term abortion, the religious exemption repeal, the bail reform law, yeshiva education. This is a socialist state and it's really scary.
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amother
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Post Mon, Dec 16 2019, 8:24 am
With all the other vaccine threads now active again, I feel like bumping up my thread.
My concern is not so much with the law itself, though I believe that's highly problematic, but with the way it was passed and enforced.
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amother
Rose


 

Post Mon, Dec 16 2019, 8:31 am
amother [ OP ] wrote:
With all the other vaccine threads now active again, I feel like bumping up my thread.
My concern is not so much with the law itself, though I believe that's highly problematic, but with the way it was passed and enforced.


What is your specific concern?
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amother
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Post Tue, Jan 14 2020, 7:45 pm
NJ State Senate killed the bill for the past legistlative session.
This article shows some of the repercussions for a Senator who opposed Meany Sweeney:
https://newjerseyglobe.com/leg.....VMoCw
Quid pro quo, anybody?


Lest anyone think getting this bill getting passed is all about public health. It's not; it's all about the money. This is the money that's reported about. There's plenty more you're not hearing about.
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