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Mon, Jun 01 2020, 11:22 am
If I don't wear stockings this Summer, halachically, what parts of my leg need to be covered?
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singleagain
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Mon, Jun 01 2020, 11:28 am
You will get a variety of answers. Prob best to check with your local orthodox Rabbi and community
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amother
Natural
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Mon, Jun 01 2020, 11:31 am
I think that the only part of the leg that may be exposed is from the ankle to the knee/below the knee. I may be wrong though.
But you should really ask your rav because everyone holds differently.
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just me!!
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Mon, Jun 01 2020, 12:35 pm
from knee to ankle- shape can be visible but not colour (this is according to Rabbi Falk)
I guess then that if you don't wear stockings, you should wear maxi skirts/
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simcha2
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Mon, Jun 01 2020, 12:46 pm
just me!! wrote: | from knee to ankle- shape can be visible but not colour (this is according to Rabbi Falk)
I guess then that if you don't wear stockings, you should wear maxi skirts/ |
Depends on your shittah.
The following say that just the thigh and knee need to be covered.
Mishnah Berurah 75:2, Igros Moshe E.H. 4:100, Halichos Shlomo Tefillah 20:footnote 22, Ve’aleihu Lo Yeibol
1:page 315, Chazzon Ish O.C. 16:8, Salmas Chaim 88:page 28, see 89, opinion of Harav Aron Kotler zt”l quoted in
Levusha Shel Torah pages 512-516, Halichos Shlomo Tefillah 20:footnote 22. Refer to Rav Akiva Eiger pesakim 98,
see Pri Megadim M.Z. 75:1.
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just me!!
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Mon, Jun 01 2020, 12:53 pm
Delete.
Last edited by just me!! on Mon, Jun 01 2020, 1:15 pm; edited 1 time in total
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amother
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Mon, Jun 01 2020, 1:05 pm
just me!! wrote: | from knee to ankle- shape can be visible but not colour (this is according to Rabbi Falk)
I guess then that if you don't wear stockings, you should wear maxi skirts/ |
Rabbi Falk is a minority opinion. Just saying.
OP, you will get a range of answers here on Imamother because we have women from diverse groups. There are women who will be horrified that you don't wear tights in the summer and other women who are horrified at the thought of wearing tights in the summer at all. There are women who wear knee highs and women who wear sandals and go bare-legged. This is something you need to ask your local Orthodox rabbi and also keep in mind that many hold that covering the lower leg follows minhag hamakom if that exists where you live.
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amother
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Mon, Jun 01 2020, 1:06 pm
Please ask your own rav. There was a post recently about tights and it became a mess.
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aliavi
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Mon, Jun 01 2020, 1:11 pm
It depends on your community norms. Where you coming from with observance or a medical need could be considerations. If you have worn stockings in the past you will need to ask about not wearing now. It’s said we can go up in observance but not down. There is an opinion that maxi skirts aren’t appropriate for several reasons. R’ Falk outlines it in his sefer.
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aliavi
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Mon, Jun 01 2020, 1:12 pm
amother [ Lawngreen ] wrote: | Rabbi Falk is a minority opinion. Just saying. |
Respectfully disagree. His may be in YOUR community but not generally speaking.
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amother
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Mon, Jun 01 2020, 1:17 pm
I don't wear stockings during summer, I know lots of women and girls who do and lots who don't. But all of my friends/SILS who don't wear knee-length skirts.
I only wear stockings if I go to shul or when I'm at my MIL who is really strict on tznius and even will comment that I should buy a minimizer bra
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just me!!
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Mon, Jun 01 2020, 1:20 pm
aliavi wrote: | Respectfully disagree. His may be in YOUR community but not generally speaking. |
This.
IMO- he's one of the only rabbanim that has studied women's tznius IN DEPTH/
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giselle
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Mon, Jun 01 2020, 1:26 pm
According to the OU
“ Women wearing skirts below their knees do not need to wear socks or stockings, unless that is the custom in their community.”
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giselle
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Mon, Jun 01 2020, 1:28 pm
aliavi wrote: | Respectfully disagree. His may be in YOUR community but not generally speaking. |
Generally speaking in the orthodox world, only a minority of communities hold that he is a majority opinion.
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just me!!
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Mon, Jun 01 2020, 1:30 pm
giselle wrote: | Generally speaking in the orthodox world, only a minority of communities hold that he is a majority opinion. |
wow wow
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imasoftov
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Mon, Jun 01 2020, 1:32 pm
amother [ Lawngreen ] wrote: | Rabbi Falk is a minority opinion. Just saying. |
aliavi wrote: | Respectfully disagree. His may be in YOUR community but not generally speaking. |
On the one hand, it doesn't answer the OP's question to say which opinion is the majority, because in any case she should follow her rabbi, not the majority. But on the other hand, an attempt to determine if R Falk is a majority or minority opinion might begin with listing which groups consider his rulings obligatory and which don't. and that might help OP, so have at it (we'd also need the number of people in each group).
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giselle
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Mon, Jun 01 2020, 1:37 pm
Thank you for this intelligent response.
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Chayalle
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Mon, Jun 01 2020, 1:55 pm
amother [ Pink ] wrote: | I don't wear stockings during summer, I know lots of women and girls who do and lots who don't. But all of my friends/SILS who don't wear knee-length skirts.
I only wear stockings if I go to shul or when I'm at my MIL who is really strict on tznius and even will comment that I should buy a minimizer bra |
I never saw anything in Hilchot Tznius about wearing a minimizer bra.
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amother
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Mon, Jun 01 2020, 1:57 pm
singleagain wrote: | You will get a variety of answers. Prob best to check with your local orthodox Rabbi and community |
This is where the conversation should have ended.
I half think this was a troll trying to raise ruckus.
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amother
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Mon, Jun 01 2020, 2:17 pm
amother [ Taupe ] wrote: | This is where the conversation should have ended.
I half think this was a troll trying to raise ruckus. |
I didn't want to be the first one to say it!
But pretty weird to post this in a fashion forum and not a halacha one especially when there was JUST a crazy heated thread specifically about this a couple of weeks ago.
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