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amother
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Post Wed, Oct 14 2020, 2:19 pm
USA doesn’t feel like a Medina shel chesed anymore if you live in NY. What would be the next destination if need be?
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Blessing1




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 14 2020, 2:26 pm
Honestly, the problem is more that we forgot we're in galos and we became too comfortable here.
If we don't change, we'll have the same issues wherever we go.
That said, we'd be much better off in Republican states.


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amother
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Post Wed, Oct 14 2020, 2:27 pm
To Israel, of course. That's where Jews are supposed to be. And if you don't like the politics, vote.
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amother
Ecru


 

Post Wed, Oct 14 2020, 2:27 pm
We need to move to a part of the US that's more compatible with our values and lifestyle. Many are considering Florida
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amother
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Post Wed, Oct 14 2020, 2:29 pm
amother [ Ecru ] wrote:
We need to move to a part of the US that's more compatible with our values and lifestyle. Many are considering Florida

just wondering why florida fits the bill re values and lifestyle
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Ruchel




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 14 2020, 2:29 pm
If it's about antisemitic it's everywherehttps://florida.adl.org/category/anti-semitism/
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amother
Tan


 

Post Wed, Oct 14 2020, 2:30 pm
We can go anywhere (even Israel!) but we're still in galus.
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amother
Ecru


 

Post Wed, Oct 14 2020, 2:32 pm
amother [ Sapphire ] wrote:
just wondering why florida fits the bill re values and lifestyle

Generally conservative leaning states are more supportive of personal freedom, religious liberties, school choice and family values. Florida is an appealing option because it already has a large existing Jewish community
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amother
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Post Wed, Oct 14 2020, 2:33 pm
Blessing1 wrote:
Honestly, the problem is more that we forgot we're in galos and we became too comfortable here.
If we don't change, we'll have the same issues wherever we go.
That said, we'd be much better off in Republican states.


Just get ready to get much less from the government in those states from housing to education.
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amother
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Post Wed, Oct 14 2020, 2:33 pm
Florida or Israel
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Blessing1




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 14 2020, 2:33 pm
amother [ Mauve ] wrote:
Just get ready to get much less from the government in those states from housing to education.


Right. This is why most people won't be open to moving out of NY.
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amother
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Post Wed, Oct 14 2020, 2:34 pm
amother [ Ecru ] wrote:
Generally conservative leaning states are more supportive of personal freedom, religious liberties, school choice and family values. Florida is an appealing option because it already has a large existing Jewish community


South Florida will be a problem for many chareidi people because of the tznius issues and the huge party culture there.
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amother
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Post Wed, Oct 14 2020, 2:35 pm
Texas seems to be a very religious state that respects traditional values, and its senator Ted Cruz has been quite outspoken in support the frum community. Dallas and Houston both have very nice, growing communities that I'm sure would be happy to welcome new transplants (within reason). Like Florida, there is also no state income tax.
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amother
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Post Wed, Oct 14 2020, 2:37 pm
amother [ Ecru ] wrote:
Generally conservative leaning states are more supportive of personal freedom, religious liberties, school choice and family values. Florida is an appealing option because it already has a large existing Jewish community

thanks for explaining. first thought that came to my mind re Florida was beach, so that is why I had that reaction
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Rappel




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 14 2020, 2:39 pm
amother [ Tan ] wrote:
We can go anywhere (even Israel!) but we're still in galus.


Perfectly true. But the land of EY is still the natural habitat of Torah-observant Jews.
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amother
Ecru


 

Post Wed, Oct 14 2020, 2:40 pm
amother [ Mauve ] wrote:
Just get ready to get much less from the government in those states from housing to education.

Its true that they provide less welfare type benefits. However it's the same amount of money provides to the people just distributed differently. Florida has a voucher program so you'll end up paying a lot less in tuition, no income tax and lower property taxes. This enables self sufficiency compared to New York where living on a middle class income is practically impossible
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Rappel




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 14 2020, 2:40 pm
Blessing1 wrote:
Honestly, the problem is more that we forgot we're in galos and we became too comfortable here.
If we don't change, we'll have the same issues wherever we go.
That said, we'd be much better off in Republican states.


What an astute statement.

Would you please elaborate?
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gold21




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 14 2020, 2:49 pm
amother [ Ecru ] wrote:
Generally conservative leaning states are more supportive of personal freedom, religious liberties, school choice and family values. Florida is an appealing option because it already has a large existing Jewish community


I've been hearing a lot of talk about Florida. What about Texas as another possibility?
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gold21




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 14 2020, 2:49 pm
amother [ Ecru ] wrote:
Its true that they provide less welfare type benefits. However it's the same amount of money provides to the people just distributed differently. Florida has a voucher program so you'll end up paying a lot less in tuition, no income tax and lower property taxes. This enables self sufficiency compared to New York where living on a middle class income is practically impossible


Any idea how Texas compares?
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amother
Ecru


 

Post Wed, Oct 14 2020, 2:53 pm
gold21 wrote:
Any idea how Texas compares?

Not sure. The focus is now in Florida because it's on the east coast so closer to NY.
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