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Kiwi13




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 29 2020, 4:48 pm
https://colorladies.com/pages/return-exchange

Return policy seems legit.
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FranticFrummie




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 29 2020, 4:56 pm
I spotted another one: https://colorladies.com/collec.....ear-2
Pictured, a cotton hoodie with embroidery and tie dye.
Description: polyester, printed design. Mad

https://colorladies.com/collec.....socks
Pictured, beautiful hand knit wool socks
Bottom picture! Cotton socks, machine made, not even the same colors.

https://colorladies.com/collec.....arf-1
Pictured, hand felted wool scarf with embellishment. Retails for around $95 on Etsy
Description: polyester - you can't needle-felt polyester!

https://colorladies.com/collec.....rings
Compare the quality from the main picture to the bottom picture.

https://colorladies.com/collec.....wls-8
Gorgeous picture, but the description says "polyester print".

I could do this all day, y'all.
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DrMom




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 29 2020, 4:59 pm
amother [ Beige ] wrote:
It's a Chinese website.

Good point. Oh well. I don't need new clothes anyway.
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Kiwi13




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 29 2020, 5:09 pm
:-(
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FranticFrummie




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 29 2020, 5:10 pm
Compare prices and quality to original designers:
https://www.etsy.com/il-en/sho.....18779
https://www.etsy.com/il-en/sho.....tails
https://www.etsy.com/il-en/sho.....00682
https://www.etsy.com/il-en/sho.....24534
https://www.etsy.com/il-en/sho.....47234
https://www.etsy.com/il-en/sho.....52017

This is simply stunning. It's made to order, so you can get it in any size you want. https://www.etsy.com/il-en/lis.....sca=1


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Kiwi13




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 29 2020, 5:13 pm
FF, to be totally honest, I'll be satisfied even if it's something basically similar, even if lower quality. But I don't want it to be garbage or very obviously a scam. Can you please super sleuth the two items I bought? Pretty please??
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FranticFrummie




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 29 2020, 5:23 pm
Kiwi13 wrote:
FF, to be totally honest, I'll be satisfied even if it's something basically similar, even if lower quality. But I don't want it to be garbage or very obviously a scam. Can you please super sleuth the two items I bought? Pretty please??


The jacket may be legit, and machine made. I know that the gloves are hand made, and not originally from China. I just can't remember which shop I saw them in.

I understand the desire to find things that are cute and affordable. As an artist and jeweler, I have another point of view though. I had some of my designs stolen, and then the thief reported ME as the one who stole the designs, and got my shop shut down on Etsy. She then proceeded to copy all the designs I had up until that time, and I lost thousands of customers and good reviews that were not archived. Not only that, I was banned from ever joining Etsy ever again.

Copies HURT hard working people. Mad
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liveandlove.ima




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 29 2020, 5:27 pm
FranticFrummie wrote:
The jacket may be legit, and machine made. I know that the gloves are hand made, and not originally from China. I just can't remember which shop I saw them in.

I understand the desire to find things that are cute and affordable. As an artist and jeweler, I have another point of view though. I had some of my designs stolen, and then the thief reported ME as the one who stole the designs, and got my shop shut down on Etsy. She then proceeded to copy all the designs I had up until that time, and I lost thousands of customers and good reviews that were not archived. Not only that, I was banned from ever joining Etsy ever again.

Copies HURT hard working people. Mad


Surprised Surprised Surprised Surprised Can't Believe It
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Kiwi13




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 29 2020, 5:29 pm
FranticFrummie wrote:
The jacket may be legit, and machine made. I know that the gloves are hand made, and not originally from China. I just can't remember which shop I saw them in.

I understand the desire to find things that are cute and affordable. As an artist and jeweler, I have another point of view though. I had some of my designs stolen, and then the thief reported ME as the one who stole the designs, and got my shop shut down on Etsy. She then proceeded to copy all the designs I had up until that time, and I lost thousands of customers and good reviews that were not archived. Not only that, I was banned from ever joining Etsy ever again.

Copies HURT hard working people. Mad


Wow that's horrible!!! I'm so sorry that happened to you! I get it that stolen designs hurt the real designers, so please don't take this as condoning that... but awesome designs can (and should!) come at awesome prices. Not all of us *raises hand* are in that market. If an awesome design inspires a less-awesome copycat design for a lower price, I would think that's okay. Like I said, I'm not expecting it to be perfect. I paid a decent amount though, so I would like a product that matches that price point. But I was never in the designer jacket market to begin with, and thus never a potential customer for top designers. I hope I'm explaining this well.
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Kiwi13




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 29 2020, 5:36 pm
UPDATE: I just submitted an order cancellation request. Too much doubt. Oh well... Anyway, I got to share some pictures of pretty things I like. That's fun, too. :-)
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number




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 29 2020, 5:38 pm
Kiwi13 it definitely looks scammy. I say contact the site and ask to cancel your order. If they refuse to do so contact Paypal.
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liveandlove.ima




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 29 2020, 5:39 pm
Kiwi13 wrote:
UPDATE: I just submitted an order cancellation request. Too much doubt. Oh well... Anyway, I got to share some pictures of pretty things I like. That's fun, too. :-)


and let's just see if they will follow through with the cancellation or they just scammed you?!
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Rappel




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 29 2020, 5:40 pm
My final conclusion:

FF can shop for me ANYTIME. I have never considered spending 600 shekels on a shirt in my life, and now I want that purple felted ruffled vest,!
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Kiwi13




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 29 2020, 5:42 pm
Rappel wrote:
My final conclusion:

FF can shop for me ANYTIME. I have never considered spending 600 shekels on a shirt in my life, and now I want that purple felted ruffled vest,!


Best conclusion of this whole thread!!!!
FF, you rock!!!
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Kiwi13




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 29 2020, 5:43 pm
mocha wrote:
and let's just see if they will follow through with the cancellation or they just scammed you?!


I paid through PayPal, so worst case I'll file a complaint with PayPal and PayPal will go after them.
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imorethanamother




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 29 2020, 5:45 pm
FranticFrummie wrote:
Have you gotten them yet? Do they match the pictures?

I recognize almost everything on this site. I'm concerned, because I have seen many of these items on Etsy, made by the original designers. Things like the embroidered coats usually go for $500 or more. I know because I have them all over my Pinterest wish list.

For example, this coat https://colorladies.com/collec.....rwear is described as "lightweight printed cotton". The picture is clearly a wool coat with crochet and embroidery embellishments, and goes for 10 times as much on the original site.


Now I want to know which Etsy people you follow!
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mfb




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 29 2020, 5:47 pm
https://www.scamdoc.com/view/404332
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FranticFrummie




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 29 2020, 5:58 pm
To do a reverse image search, just save the image to your computer. Then go to this page https://images.google.com.au/ . Click the camera icon in the search bar, and then upload the image. You'll get pages of images that match, or are a very close match. Then you can click to see if you can find the origin of the image. It only takes a minute.

The coat is just a crochet pattern. Identical photos.
https://moralefiber.blog/2019/.....ge-1/

The original maker's website is down, but I found her Pinterest page.
https://www.pinterest.at/pin/4.....7887/

I'm glad you cancelled your order. I'd hate for you to get ripped off.

I agree that things should be affordable, but artists are notorious for not paying themselves, and they rarely break even. Suppose you spent 60 hours working on an extremely important presentation for your boss, and he said "Great work! I'm going to pay you $1.25 an hour, because you shouldn't earn too much. Why can't you work for cheaper?"

There is a huge difference between being "inspired by", and blatantly copying someone's pictures or work and calling it your own. I get inspired by lots of things, but I don't make fraudulent claims, undercut other artist's prices, or do things in an absolutely identical way.

For example, I would love to have a custom made jacket or coat like the ones I see on Etsy. What I can afford to do though, is find a vintage or second hand coat, and buy some felting wool and embroidery thread. Maybe some fun yarn, too. Then I can work on it with my own designs. It will be a fun hobby, I'll have something to be proud of, and I can do a freeform style that won't be out of my skill set.
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Rappel




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 29 2020, 6:02 pm
On the topic of ethically made clothing:

Holyclothing.com is called that because their workers actually have good conditions, and their products are well made and consistent. What you see is what you get.

Kiwi, I know it's not exactly as funky as what you wanted to order before, but they're big on the Renaissance/Celtic look. Maybe you'll find something there you like.
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giselle




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 29 2020, 6:04 pm
Kiwi13 wrote:
I paid through PayPal, so worst case I'll file a complaint with PayPal and PayPal will go after them.

Good luck, but I did not have luck with a few PayPal complaints I filed after I received very inferior goods from obvious scam sites.
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