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amother
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Sun, Feb 21 2021, 9:37 am
Mohn + purim--what's the connection? I remember there is some pun or historical anecdotal connection. Thank you!
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amother
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Sun, Feb 21 2021, 9:42 am
Esther ate seeds in the palace. So she can keep kosher without giving away that she was Jewish
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MiriFr
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Sun, Feb 21 2021, 9:45 am
Mohn tash means poppy seed pocket. Hamantash is a pun with mohn and haman. I think poppy seed was the original flavor.
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amother
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Sun, Feb 21 2021, 11:11 am
amother [ Periwinkle ] wrote: | Esther ate seeds in the palace. So she can keep kosher without giving away that she was Jewish |
So interesting. Do you know the source for this?
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amother
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Sun, Feb 21 2021, 11:11 am
MiriFr wrote: | Mohn tash means poppy seed pocket. Hamantash is a pun with mohn and haman. I think poppy seed was the original flavor. |
Thank you!!
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goodmorning
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Sun, Feb 21 2021, 12:38 pm
The Rema (OC 695:2) records a minhag to eat seeds on Purim:
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(יש אומרים שיש לאכול מאכל זרעונים בפורים זכר לזרעונים שאכל דניאל וחביריו בבבל (כל בו
Some say that there is [significance] to eating seeds on Purim as a remembrance for the seeds that Daniel and his friends ate in Babylonia (Kol Bo).
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The Aruch HaShulchan (695:9) notes that although the Rema references Daniel and his friends, Esther herself ate seeds in Achashverosh's palace:
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ותמיהני: למה לו לומר שאכל דניאל, שאין זה שייך לפורים? הרי אסתר עצמה אכלה זרעונים, כדאיתא במגילה (יג א) על פסוק: "וישנה ואת נערותיה לטוב…" – רבי יוחנן אמר שהאכילה זרעונים,
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based on the Gemara in Megilla 13a that notes that both Esther and Daniel ate seeds:
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וְרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר זֵרְעוֹנִים וְכֵן הוּא אוֹמֵר וַיְהִי הַמֶּלְצַר נוֹשֵׂא אֶת פַּת בָּגָם וְנוֹתֵן לָהֶם זֵרְעוֹנִים
And Rabbi Yoḥanan said a third understanding: He gave her vegetables, which did not pose a problem with regard to the kosher laws. And so it states with regard to the kindness done for Daniel and his associates: “So the steward took away their food and the wine that they should drink; and gave them vegetables” (Daniel 1:16).
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(Translations courtesy of Sefaria)
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amother
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Sun, Feb 21 2021, 3:52 pm
goodmorning wrote: | The Rema (OC 695:2) records a minhag to eat seeds on Purim:
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(יש אומרים שיש לאכול מאכל זרעונים בפורים זכר לזרעונים שאכל דניאל וחביריו בבבל (כל בו
Some say that there is [significance] to eating seeds on Purim as a remembrance for the seeds that Daniel and his friends ate in Babylonia (Kol Bo).
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The Aruch HaShulchan (695:9) notes that although the Rema references Daniel and his friends, Esther herself ate seeds in Achashverosh's palace:
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ותמיהני: למה לו לומר שאכל דניאל, שאין זה שייך לפורים? הרי אסתר עצמה אכלה זרעונים, כדאיתא במגילה (יג א) על פסוק: "וישנה ואת נערותיה לטוב…" – רבי יוחנן אמר שהאכילה זרעונים,
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based on the Gemara in Megilla 13a that notes that both Esther and Daniel ate seeds:
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וְרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר זֵרְעוֹנִים וְכֵן הוּא אוֹמֵר וַיְהִי הַמֶּלְצַר נוֹשֵׂא אֶת פַּת בָּגָם וְנוֹתֵן לָהֶם זֵרְעוֹנִים
And Rabbi Yoḥanan said a third understanding: He gave her vegetables, which did not pose a problem with regard to the kosher laws. And so it states with regard to the kindness done for Daniel and his associates: “So the steward took away their food and the wine that they should drink; and gave them vegetables” (Daniel 1:16).
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(Translations courtesy of Sefaria) |
Thank you this is so great to know!!
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