What is the plural of bris?

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amother

Mon, Mar 22 2021, 9:51 pm

Question in title. Thank you!

leah233

Mon, Mar 22 2021, 9:53 pm

In Hebrew: Brisos
In Yiddish: Brisim

singleagain

Mon, Mar 22 2021, 9:56 pm

English: brises

Fave

Mon, Mar 22 2021, 10:00 pm

OP, are you having twins?

miami85

Mon, Mar 22 2021, 10:06 pm

In yiddish "shabbes" is spelled with a "samech" at the end so it becomes "shabbosim", probably similar to bris.

Crookshanks

Mon, Mar 22 2021, 10:07 pm

Brissim.

amother

Aqua

Mon, Mar 22 2021, 10:21 pm

miami85 wrote:

In yiddish "shabbes" is spelled with a "samech" at the end so it becomes "shabbosim", probably similar to bris.

I've never seen shabbosim spelled with a samach. I'm a chassidish yiddish speaker. It's spelled שבתים.
The plural of bris is brissim.

amother

Saddlebrown

Mon, Mar 22 2021, 10:26 pm

amother [ Aqua ] wrote:

I've never seen shabbosim spelled with a samach. I'm a chassidish yiddish speaker. It's spelled שבתים.
The plural of bris is brissim.

It’s spelled with a samech all over kikar shabbos in yerushalayim

professor

Mon, Mar 22 2021, 11:14 pm

It's spelled שבעס? Instead of שבת? This is so interesting, takeh yiddish has spelling rules that have nothing to do with lashon hakodesh

amother

Aqua

Mon, Mar 22 2021, 11:52 pm

amother [ Saddlebrown ] wrote:

It’s spelled with a samech all over kikar shabbos in yerushalayim

That's weird. I never realized when I was in Israel.

Hatemywig

Mon, Mar 22 2021, 11:58 pm

amother [ Aqua ] wrote:

I've never seen shabbosim spelled with a samach. I'm a chassidish yiddish speaker. It's spelled שבתים.
The plural of bris is brissim.

In grammatically correct Hebrew including לשון הקודש, it's שבתות and בריתות.

Both words are feminine, therefore the plural is as written above. The Yiddishized version are Brissim and Shabbosim. Which are both grammatically incorrect.

happyone

Tue, Mar 23 2021, 12:02 am

I hope each child needs to only have one single bris.

amother

Indigo

Tue, Mar 23 2021, 12:15 am

Hatemywig wrote:

That's kind of like saying that every single English word and sentence is wrong because it's not proper Latin.

FranticFrummie

Tue, Mar 23 2021, 5:47 am

amother [ Indigo ] wrote:

That's kind of like saying that every single English word and sentence is wrong because it's not proper Latin.

Hopefully we can nip this argument before it gets ugly.

OP, can you tell us whether you want the Yiddish version, Hebrew, or modern Ivrit? Is there someone in your kehillah who can advise you on how your community spells it?

(Slightly OT. When I first made Aliyah, I went to ulpan to learn Ivrit. I wanted to practice with DH, who is a native Yiddish speaker, and learns in Loshon Kodesh. He kept telling me "You're doing it wrong! Nobody talks like that!" I couldn't convince him that Ivrit was a legitimate language. He acted like I was speaking Chinese. He also complained all the time that he could never understand Israelis who "mangled the language." Rolling Eyes

)

sequoia

Tue, Mar 23 2021, 6:11 am

Britot?

elaela

Tue, Mar 23 2021, 6:51 am

Im NOT a linguist but I believe the following is correct (depending on language/background):

English - Brisses

Yiddish- Brissim

Ivrit - Britot

Loshon Hakodesh pronounced ashkenazy way - Birisos

shabbatiscoming

Tue, Mar 23 2021, 9:57 am

A bris is only with a s sound in ashkenazi hebrew. In israel or speaking with the sfardi pronounciation out of israel, it is brit and so plural would be britot.
That is the correct way in hebrew to say it.

Ashkenazi - brisos, although I dont think I have ever heard it pronouned that way
yiddish - brissim

Alsl, about shabbat being spelled with a samach, I have never seen that anywwhere in israel. What would the reason be? Thats sort of bastardizing the word, no?

avrahamama

Tue, Mar 23 2021, 10:14 am

elaela wrote:

Im NOT a linguist but I believe the following is correct (depending on language/background):

English - Brisses

Yiddish- Brissim

Ivrit - Britot

Loshon Hakodesh pronounced ashkenazy way - Birisos

Why would it be like that? I know many sephardim would say brith instead of brit. Ashkenazim have a taf and saf and sephardim have a taf and thaf. Is it possible that lashon kodesh it would be a thaf ending?

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