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How make havdala tonight b4 dh comes from shul?



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amother
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Post Sun, Jul 18 2021, 2:03 pm
How do I make havdala tonight, I don't want to wait till they're finished in shul because they're going to come home way after it ends. What do I say and what do I make it on? grape juice?
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amother
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Post Sun, Jul 18 2021, 2:05 pm
My husband usually shows me. This year he’s davening maariv close by so he can get home faster.
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Thisisnotmyreal




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 18 2021, 2:06 pm
Tea. Say the words. No candle or besamim
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Ema of 5




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 18 2021, 2:06 pm
It’s hagafen and hamavdil I believe.
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Ema of 5




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 18 2021, 2:06 pm
Thisisnotmyreal wrote:
Tea. Say the words. No candle or besamim

Once the fast is over, why can’t you use grape juice?
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BH Yom Yom




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 18 2021, 2:07 pm
Hagefen or shehakol, depending on whether you hold that you should use grape juice or another chamar d’medina. Then hamavdil.
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Thisisnotmyreal




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 18 2021, 2:09 pm
Ema of 4 wrote:
Once the fast is over, why can’t you use grape juice?


I'm not saying no to wine. More like who wants to drink that first thing?

ETA I should say no to wine. All restrictions are kept until tomorrow chatzos.


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amother
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Post Sun, Jul 18 2021, 2:11 pm
So I skip hinei k-el yeshuasi and just say the bracha on gefen or shehakol and then the last bracha in havdala, hamavdil bein kodesh lchol...?
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Thisisnotmyreal




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 18 2021, 2:14 pm
No just skip the aish and besamim brachos.
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FranticFrummie




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 18 2021, 2:15 pm
Thanks for this thread. I don't have a DH, so I was wondering this as well.

I'm going to use lemon-lime seltzer.
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Shoshie




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 18 2021, 2:17 pm
amother [ OP ] wrote:
So I skip hinei k-el yeshuasi and just say the bracha on gefen or shehakol and then the last bracha in havdala, hamavdil bein kodesh lchol...?


Yes. Exactly.
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amother
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Post Sun, Jul 18 2021, 2:18 pm
I was told to use coffee, tea, or 100% orange juice and make shehakol. if not then grape juice and hagofen
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amother
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Post Sun, Jul 18 2021, 2:19 pm
Actually that’s if u break ur fast
After the fast can use grape juice


- On Motzoei Tisha B’Av Sunday night this year one makes havdala and is permissible to drink the cup of wine or grape juice. We do not make a bracha on besamim or a Ner. We only make a borei pri Hagafen and say the bracha of Hamavdil.
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lasagna




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 18 2021, 2:22 pm
I was told hagefen on grape juice, wine, or beer and as a woman I can drink before my husband comes home and if need to eat then I shld say havdala first.
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Ema of 5




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 18 2021, 2:29 pm
amother [ Burlywood ] wrote:
Actually that’s if u break ur fast
After the fast can use grape juice


- On Motzoei Tisha B’Av Sunday night this year one makes havdala and is permissible to drink the cup of wine or grape juice. We do not make a bracha on besamim or a Ner. We only make a borei pri Hagafen and say the bracha of Hamavdil.

Ner was last night, I believe.
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