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flowerpower
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 Tue, Jul 26 2022, 4:27 pm
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Of course I do. I didn’t know it’s optional. I found a red spot this week. I find one on occasion.
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amother
Midnight
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Tue, Jul 26 2022, 4:39 pm
I find plood spots pretty often in commercial eggs, I guess I use a lot of eggs compared to others.
Re my backyard chickens that don't have access to a rooster, I was told I need to check & discard any with bloodspots ( many unfortunately) even w/ o a rooster being present.
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amother
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Tue, Jul 26 2022, 5:08 pm
Contrary to popular belief, to tell if an egg is fertilized one needs to see a white disc on the egg.
https://cs-tf.com/how-to-tell-.....ized/
So I’m not sure why bloods drop is the thing we look for a a sign of potential life! If anyone has an answer, I was always curious…
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amother
Blush
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Tue, Jul 26 2022, 5:10 pm
| amother [ Trillium ] wrote: | | No idea but I was taught this too. |
its the concept of zugos(pairs), but its a confusing topic.
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amother
Indigo
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Tue, Jul 26 2022, 5:39 pm
| amother [ Dandelion ] wrote: | | You never found a blood spot? I have many times… |
I really don’t think I ever have. I’ve been married for over a decade and have checked plenty of eggs. I thought it was not so common anymore in our pasteurized eggs, since I’ve never found one.
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amother
Trillium
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Tue, Jul 26 2022, 5:42 pm
| amother [ Midnight ] wrote: | I find plood spots pretty often in commercial eggs, I guess I use a lot of eggs compared to others.
Re my backyard chickens that don't have access to a rooster, I was told I need to check & discard any with bloodspots ( many unfortunately) even w/ o a rooster being present. |
Do you know the difference between blood and protein spots? You may be unnecessarily throwing out eggs.
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amother
Trillium
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Tue, Jul 26 2022, 5:44 pm
| amother [ White ] wrote: | Contrary to popular belief, to tell if an egg is fertilized one needs to see a white disc on the egg.
https://cs-tf.com/how-to-tell-.....ized/
So I’m not sure why bloods drop is the thing we look for a a sign of potential life! If anyone has an answer, I was always curious… |
Well, I could be wrong but I'd guess it's because we have a prohibition against eating blood, not eating fertilized eggs.
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amother
Midnight
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Tue, Jul 26 2022, 8:35 pm
| amother [ Trillium ] wrote: | | Do you know the difference between blood and protein spots? You may be unnecessarily throwing out eggs. |
Please enlighten me!! I haven't been able to get concrete info on this
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amother
White
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Tue, Jul 26 2022, 9:45 pm
| amother [ Trillium ] wrote: | | Well, I could be wrong but I'd guess it's because we have a prohibition against eating blood, not eating fertilized eggs. |
That's what I was thinking too, but the reason I always heard, was because a blood spot shows that there was potential life. So is a fertilized egg at all assur?
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amother
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Tue, Jul 26 2022, 9:47 pm
| amother [ Midnight ] wrote: | | Please enlighten me!! I haven't been able to get concrete info on this |
Yes. I have heard this too. You have to speak to someone knowledgeable. It's a bit like bedikos. Only true red spots are blood spots, the rest may be bits of feed or other protein that wasn't fully broken down...
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amother
Stonewash
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Wed, Jul 27 2022, 6:37 am
I find blood spots occasionally.
Rule of thumb: If you're not sure if it's blood, it's probably not.
Blood spots are actually RED and usually on the yolk.
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Mayflower
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Wed, Jul 27 2022, 9:27 am
I also find blood spots occasionally. At least a few times a year.
When we are on vacation and can't find white eggs, I usually have to throw out at least half of the eggs. (I now try to bring a tray of white eggs to avoid this problem).
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amother
White
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Wed, Jul 27 2022, 9:58 am
https://www.ou.org/life/kosher/eggs/
This is OUs take on the matter re protein spots etc. They don't go into detail about actual fertilized eggs. I guess one would have to ask a shaila if they have backyard chickens and rooster...
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amother
Trillium
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Wed, Jul 27 2022, 10:02 am
| Mayflower wrote: | I also find blood spots occasionally. At least a few times a year.
When we are on vacation and can't find white eggs, I usually have to throw out at least half of the eggs. (I now try to bring a tray of white eggs to avoid this problem). |
You're almost certainly wasting perfectly good eggs. Brown eggs are more prone to having protein spots. Not more prone to being fertilized and having blood.
I wish I was better at posting pictures and links. Please, ladies, just google this. Those tiny brownish-reddish specks are NOT blood. Blood is bright red and completely obvious.
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Moonlight
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Wed, Jul 27 2022, 11:26 am
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Of course and I find blood spots I'd say once every 3 months
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LiLIsraeli
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Wed, Jul 27 2022, 12:18 pm
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Yes. I always do an odd number and minimum 3. I heard this is because you need a majority, like someone said upthread. If you cook eggs in an even amount and half of them have blood spots, is your pot treif or kosher? If you have an odd number, there is a clear majority.
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snooper86
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Wed, Jul 27 2022, 12:21 pm
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Yes to both. I was also wondering if still necessary but found a blood spot recently.
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amother
Bronze
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Thu, Jul 28 2022, 12:20 am
| Not_in_my_town wrote: | | Interesting, because I went to Chabad seminary and we very specifically learned that eggs, even boiled (unless you eat the whole egg in one bite, which is chazirish, so you shouldn't), has to be checked. |
Btw the Rebbe himself would eat a whole boiled egg in one bite at the Pesach sedarim....
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Mayflower
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Thu, Jul 28 2022, 12:50 am
| amother [ Trillium ] wrote: | | You're almost certainly wasting perfectly good eggs. Brown eggs are more prone to having protein spots. Not more prone to being fertilized and having blood. |
The spots I find in brown eggs are red, and I'm pretty sure it's blood. I did try to Google and this was the first result that came up:
"Well, for one thing, blood spots are more common in brown eggs than white eggs, for various reasons. Eggs produced on a large scale are all “candled,” says Theresia Lavergne, professor and poultry extension specialist at Louisiana State University AgCenter. That means a light is shone through them while a person or piece of machinery checks for spots. Later, an inspector will also spot check some of the eggs.
In white eggs, less than 1% tend to have blood spots on the yolks, says Neil O’Sullivan, director of research and development at Hy-Line, a major international chicken breeding company. Rates for brown eggs vary but are much higher. The company’s Hy-Line Brown, which O’Sullivan says has the lowest incidence, is still at 5%."
(More here: https://qz.com/431136/heres-wh.....ones/)
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