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Rabbi Birnbaum: Kibbud Horim brings the Geulah.
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taketwo




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Aug 07 2022, 8:21 pm
amother [ Stonewash ] wrote:
https://www.issendai.com/psychology/estrangement/missing-missing-reasons.html


Thank you for sharing this. Very informative
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amother
Honeydew


 

Post Sun, Aug 07 2022, 8:21 pm
amother [ Viola ] wrote:
Right, but it was HIS mother. Btw that's probably majority of kids who cut off I would imagine.


You don’t get to make up what you think people do. And I bet there is so much more to that story that you have no clue about.
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steak4me




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Aug 07 2022, 8:21 pm
#BestBubby wrote:
You also taught your children it is ok to cut off parents, ok to refuse to forgive.

Secular studies show that people who cut off their parents are high risk of being cut off by THEIR children.

Patterns repeat through the generations.


No bestbubby, I have taught my children how valuable each one of us is. And how precious our lives are and how we matter and make a difference. And showed them the power of love. The power to stand up for what’s right and to live a beautiful rich healthy life.

And if god forbid I ever repeat the cycle of abuse I would hope my children cut me off and go on to live healthy happy lives without me.
No one deserves to live with abuse.

Frankly, your words shot daggers into me. I posted something quite vulnerable and you chose to be beyond hurtful. I’m not sure what drives you to be this way but it’s got to stop b
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amother
Viola


 

Post Sun, Aug 07 2022, 8:21 pm
#BestBubby wrote:
In RESPONSE to TWO public threads from today about cutting off parents.

WHY do people who cut off parents talk about it on a PUBLIC thread when there is a PRIVATE forum for abused children?

Because they are RECRUITING others to also cut off their parents as well.

I posted re an article in Family First. Maybe you should write them a letter- how dare they write about this topic publicly? ???
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amother
Whitesmoke


 

Post Sun, Aug 07 2022, 8:22 pm
steak4me wrote:
Do you know how I actively bring the geula closer?

By waking up my children with a kiss and a smile even though I’ve was never kissed a day in my life before I got married.

By baking cookies with my children even though I was never allowed in my own kitchen growing up and never had a cookie other than those given out in school

By buying my children toys that may make a mess- the ones I dreamed of owning as a kid

By showing my children how much daddy and mommy love each other

By starting off each day with a family hug

By allowing my children to express their emotions even if it’s not in the most “respectful way” Bec I recognize that behind the “go away” is a little child begging me to come closer

By complimenting each and every school project and hanging it proudly on my fridge despite the fact that as a child every project was criticized and then thrown out right away

By constantly praising my husband to my kids even though all I ever heard growing up was how bad my father was.

This is how I bring the geula closer. Im not saying it to show how great I am, but rather to drive home a point.

Im a cycle breaker, had I not broken off contact with my abusive mother I would never be able to build the home I have now.
I have created a mikdash me’at- the way hashem wants us all to. A safe and loving home.


Kol hakavod to you.

You know what I do to actively bring mashiach?
I do not hit my parents. I don't curse them. I don't contradict them to their face. I don't yell at them.
You know how I accomplish that? By minimizing my contact with them unless I feel capable of doing that.
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amother
Viola


 

Post Sun, Aug 07 2022, 8:22 pm
amother [ Honeydew ] wrote:
You don’t get to make up what you think people do. And I bet there is so much more to that story that you have no clue about.

I didn't make up anything. She clearly stated why she made her husband cut off. Sometimes it IS the child's fault - why can't you believe that?
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amother
Honeydew


 

Post Sun, Aug 07 2022, 8:23 pm
#BestBubby wrote:
A while ago there was a thread with the title:

I CUT OFF MY PARENTS, AMA (ask me anything)

Yes, people are recruiting others to cut off parents!


Omg she was trying to get people like YOU to understand her. You have a sick way of twisting everything on this subject. I strongly suggest intense therapy to deal with your children cutting you off. No one is this obsessed if it didn’t happen to them.
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#BestBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Aug 07 2022, 8:23 pm
amother [ Blush ] wrote:
I grew up in a home with two loving and supportive parents, BH. Yet I have no reason in my mind to doubt these unfortunate women who write about their abusive upbringings. I want to hug them all.

Is there occasionally a situation where a child cuts off contact due to their own issues, and not due to the parents? Might be. But that does not stop me from believing women who describe real abuse, and the daas torah they received in how to deal with their parents.

Best Bubby, why won’t you believe them?!


I talk in GENERAL, to judge parents favorably because nobody really knows the truth.

But when posters start cursing me, and making false accusations against me, I think they reveal who the REAL abuser is.
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funmamma




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Aug 07 2022, 8:23 pm
steak4me wrote:
Do you know how I actively bring the geula closer?

By waking up my children with a kiss and a smile even though I’ve was never kissed a day in my life before I got married.

By baking cookies with my children even though I was never allowed in my own kitchen growing up and never had a cookie other than those given out in school

By buying my children toys that may make a mess- the ones I dreamed of owning as a kid

By showing my children how much daddy and mommy love each other

By starting off each day with a family hug

By allowing my children to express their emotions even if it’s not in the most “respectful way” Bec I recognize that behind the “go away” is a little child begging me to come closer

By complimenting each and every school project and hanging it proudly on my fridge despite the fact that as a child every project was criticized and then thrown out right away

By constantly praising my husband to my kids even though all I ever heard growing up was how bad my father was.

This is how I bring the geula closer. Im not saying it to show how great I am, but rather to drive home a point.

Im a cycle breaker, had I not broken off contact with my abusive mother I would never be able to build the home I have now.
I have created a mikdash me’at- the way hashem wants us all to. A safe and loving home.


You sound like such a special person!! I would love to hear more of your chinuch tips and what you do! You sound like an awesome loving mom. Keep if up!!
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taketwo




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Aug 07 2022, 8:24 pm
#BestBubby wrote:
You also taught your children it is ok to cut off parents, ok to refuse to forgive.

Secular studies show that people who cut off their parents are high risk of being cut off by THEIR children.

Patterns repeat through the generations.


Horrifying post! Beyond horrifying. Bestbubby it's tishabav!
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steak4me




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Aug 07 2022, 8:25 pm
taketwo wrote:
Horrifying post! Beyond horrifying. Bestbubby it's tishabav!


Thank you taketwo

I cannot even believe my eyes with that response. How low can one go?
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amother
Honeydew


 

Post Sun, Aug 07 2022, 8:25 pm
amother [ Viola ] wrote:
I didn't make up anything. She clearly stated why she made her husband cut off. Sometimes it IS the child's fault - why can't you believe that?


You said probably imagine about everyone else. That is making up random facts about people you don’t know. You have no idea how against nature it is to cut off parents. Majority have no choice. And the part you all leave out is 99% of the time it’s temporary until the parent respects boundaries and stops abusing.
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#BestBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Aug 07 2022, 8:26 pm
amother [ Viola ] wrote:
I didn't make up anything. She clearly stated why she made her husband cut off. Sometimes it IS the child's fault - why can't you believe that?


Because we must BELIEVE ALL CHILDREN.

It is ALWAYS the parents fault and you are evil if
You suggest that SOMETIMES the child is unjustified.
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amother
Viola


 

Post Sun, Aug 07 2022, 8:27 pm
amother [ Honeydew ] wrote:
You said probably imagine about everyone else. That is making up random facts about people you don’t know. You have no idea how against nature it is to cut off parents. Majority have no choice. And the part you all leave out is 99% of the time it’s temporary until the parent respects boundaries and stops abusing.

Um... I cut off. I get it. I was responding to the NEVER part. Life is not ALWAYS black and white.
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#BestBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Aug 07 2022, 8:28 pm
taketwo wrote:
Horrifying post! Beyond horrifying. Bestbubby it's tishabav!


Yes, it is Tisha B'Av!

Let's make SHOLOM with our parents who are willing to accept any boundary.
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mommyisbest




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Aug 07 2022, 8:28 pm
#BestBubby wrote:
Because we must BELIEVE ALL CHILDREN.

It is ALWAYS the parents fault and you are evil if
You suggest that SOMETIMES the child is unjustified.


No, whats evil is suggesting that a person who worked on themselves to build a beautiful home is stopping the geula because they refuse to let themselves be subject to abuse.
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taketwo




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Aug 07 2022, 8:29 pm
Bestbubby you have no right to comment on this thread until you read every link pasted here. Try hearing the other side of the story before throwing out judgements and conspiracy with zero education about the other side. Research on one side, with one outcome isn't actually research. You have to research all sides.
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amother
Seashell


 

Post Sun, Aug 07 2022, 8:29 pm
bestbubby to you get pleasure from what your doing? Does it feel good to know how your stepping on others in the name of all thats holy?
Answer these questions please and see where it takes you.
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amother
Stonewash


 

Post Sun, Aug 07 2022, 8:29 pm
#BestBubby wrote:
Yes, it is Tisha B'Av!

Let's make SHOLOM with our parents who are willing to accept any boundary.


I wish.
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amother
Stonewash


 

Post Sun, Aug 07 2022, 8:30 pm
taketwo wrote:
Bestbubby you have no right to comment on this thread until you read every link pasted here. Try hearing the other side of the story before throwing out judgements and conspiracy with zero education about the other side. Research on one side, with one outcome isn't actually research. You have to research all sides.


She's legit a QANON COVID conspiracist. That's her MO.
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