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amother
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 Sun, Oct 02 2022, 7:47 am
adam and chava were vegans.
which means plant based diet had all the nutrition.
they probably ate raw.
when did it all change?
should one learn from this that vegan diets are best?
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amother
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Sun, Oct 02 2022, 7:48 am
| amother OP wrote: | adam and chava were vegans.
which means plant based diet had all the nutrition.
they probably ate raw.
when did it all change?
should one learn from this that vegan diets are best? |
How do you know they were vegans? There is no discussion either way of what they ate.
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amother
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Sun, Oct 02 2022, 7:51 am
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Everything changed with the mabel. Read the meforshim.
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Reality
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Sun, Oct 02 2022, 7:52 am
| amother OP wrote: | adam and chava were vegans.
which means plant based diet had all the nutrition.
they probably ate raw.
when did it all change?
should one learn from this that vegan diets are best? |
We are not the same. Things changed after Adam and Chava ate from the eitz Hadas.
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amother
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Sun, Oct 02 2022, 7:58 am
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Our physical bodies are also different from how theirs were. I'm not sure there is anything to learn from this.
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amother
Caramel
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Sun, Oct 02 2022, 8:00 am
| amother Chartreuse wrote: | | Our physical bodies are also different from how theirs were. I'm not sure there is anything to learn from this. |
How?
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amother
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Sun, Oct 02 2022, 8:03 am
| amother Acacia wrote: | | Everything changed with the mabel. Read the meforshim. |
example what?
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WhatFor
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Sun, Oct 02 2022, 8:07 am
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My understanding is that Rav Kook believed that when mashiach comes we'll all be vegetarian and that it's a higher moral level to be vegetarian, but after Noach the generations were lower and that meat became permitted.
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DrMom
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Sun, Oct 02 2022, 8:29 am
| amother Acacia wrote: | | Everything changed with the mabel. Read the meforshim. |
It's in the Chumash, parshat Noach.
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amother
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Sun, Oct 02 2022, 8:36 am
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It changed by Noach. People were putting animals on the same level as humans and one of the main aveiros of that time was having relations with animals. We started eating meat to show that there’s a difference and to put ourselves above them.
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SuperWify
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Sun, Oct 02 2022, 8:37 am
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Adam and Chava were giants who could see to the other side of the world. It’s really not a great comparison.
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Thisisnotmyreal
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Sun, Oct 02 2022, 8:39 am
| WhatFor wrote: | | My understanding is that Rav Kook believed that when mashiach comes we'll all be vegetarian and that it's a higher moral level to be vegetarian, but after Noach the generations were lower and that meat became permitted. |
You realize it's a Mitzva from the Torah to eat from the korbon pesach? What does that even mean?
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amother
Vermilion
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Sun, Oct 02 2022, 8:50 am
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How do you explain korbanos and the constant talk about eating basar? Meat is considered the nicest best food in the Torah. I don’t believe vegetarian is considered a higher level in the Torah. I think much of this idea was created by anti meat people.
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shabbatiscoming
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Sun, Oct 02 2022, 9:01 am
| WhatFor wrote: | | My understanding is that Rav Kook believed that when mashiach comes we'll all be vegetarian and that it's a higher moral level to be vegetarian, but after Noach the generations were lower and that meat became permitted. | Rav Kook was actually a vegetarian and on shabbat and chag he ate basari. I know a rav who does the same.
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amother
Apple
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Sun, Oct 02 2022, 9:09 am
I tried eating vegan for a few months but I had no energy. My body needs animal products.
I don’t think it’s better to aspire to Adam and Chava’s diet than avraham avinu or anyone else in the Torah. Maybe try the rambam’s diet if you want a more spiritual based diet.
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amother
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Sun, Oct 02 2022, 9:11 am
| shabbatiscoming wrote: | | Rav Kook was actually a vegetarian and on shabbat and chag he ate basari. I know a rav who does the same. |
was he a vegeterian through childhood too?
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amother
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Sun, Oct 02 2022, 9:12 am
| amother Apple wrote: | I tried eating vegan for a few months but I had no energy. My body needs animal products.
I don’t think it’s better to aspire to Adam and Chava’s diet than avraham avinu or anyone else in the Torah. Maybe try the rambam’s diet if you want a more spiritual based diet. |
whats the rambams diet?
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shabbatiscoming
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Sun, Oct 02 2022, 9:19 am
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